Why does Ornn get a massively upgraded Poppy charge?

The Ecdysiast··3 votes·591 views

This is kind of ridiculous. While Poppy has dropped an insane amount in both popularity and win rate due to the tank item nerfs, they're going to give what should be her E to a new champion.

All Ornn's move is is Poppy's E, not effected by tenacity, AoE, and possible to use for escape. Come the fuck on Riot.

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The Leo Cat1 votes

At least the saving grace here is that Ornns mana cost are massive. But knowing Rito that will change and suddenly Ornn is a better poppy. Just without the hard to kill nature that is poppy.

Ralanr1 votes

Or the peeling power.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

He can buy items from the lane, saving TP or even bringing something else. Poppy generally has to stick under tower and farm against all top laners besides other tanks, and use TP to get back to lane when she's been poked down or ran out of mana.

He can also give teammates item upgrades, and though we don't know what they are yet, if the gold cost is equal to the stats provided, they're going to be pretty strong.

And he an increase the effect of CC on enemies.

He's already going to be a better Poppy, though it's also fair to say he'd have synergy with Poppy in a tank meta.

Ralanr1 votes

He does not have nearly the same level of peel as Poppy. His CC requires a full channel on his E, a wall that enemies happen to be at (he can't force enemies into walls like Poppy) or his ultimate being redirected into the enemy.

Meep Man1 votes

Poppy is much more disengage and peel based. They have different jobs.

Meep Man1 votes

Q: 55/60/65/70/75 W: 45/50/55/60/65 E: 60 R: 100

That's not too massive actually. It's average at best, especially his W and Q at early ranks. If you compare it to similar champions...

Sejuani Q: 70/75/80/85/90 W: 80 E: 20 (but need stacks and is spammable) R: 100

Nautilus Q: 60/70/80/90/100 W: 80 E: 50/60/70/80/90 R: 100

Galio Q: 70/75/80/85/90 W: 50 E: 50 R: 100

...he is either about on par or the much less insane in the mana cost department.

SuperCosmicHobo1 votes

Roppy's q still do good hp% dmg

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Actually, it doesn't. Which is why they had to buff it and even still her win and pick rates didn't increase.

Shuyin1781 votes

Because Poppy's is a targeted ability while his is a skillshot with a delay.

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