This stupid vayne buff

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Because Vayne wasn't already an annoying champ, with her no-counter %max HP + base true damage every 3rd AA, self-peel E that, in case it stunned you, may become your own death, untargetable R + Q that made her a pain to kill with anything that is not an AoE damage skillshot, and never forget about that passive that gives her MS speed in many circumstances, and also gets doubled when you use your ult (just in case you thought you could just run behind cover).

Noooooo... What she needed is extra untargetable time so she can destroy ADCs in lane phase (as they won't be able to AA you) and be even more annoying to kill for any other champ in the game...

Now for real, stop using "hurr durr, u're iron xd" comments and be honest: Vayne will have no counterplay until some changes are made. Against a decent Vayne, you've always had to play really safe and bully her as much as possible, because if she ever got some items; that's it, the game was over. Now... What are you gonna do? She has half CD time for one of her defense mechanisms for no reason.

Why would i stop it if this buff makins close to 0 sense?Her q already has 2 sec cd w/o any cdr. Yes, this allows her to dodge shit more reliant sometimes, but that's it. She still will be useless against long range line ups. She's still easy to focus, and her q still slows her dps input.

Now i checked your profile and realised why you're making all this excuses. Ppl even in plat are borderline brain disabled, it's pretty hard to imagine what happens in iron or bronze, but i bet, those kind of 'human' beings are not allowed to talk about balance changes, especially, when it comes to one of 3 adc's, that actually requires skill to play

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You're not biased at all...oh wait, you are 🤣. Vayne's winrate jumped to 54% you sadistic jerk

50.85 on op gg. Nuff said about irons.

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And the ER refund is also received when the attack connects. So we got a 1.6s CD tumble that gets 20% refund, and a 50% refund based on its CD at the time the attack connects (1.6s), so yes it is practically up when the attack connects.

It doesn't work like that. From the patch notes:

Tumble's cooldown is reduced by 50% while Final Hour is active (reminder: Tumble's cooldown doesn't start until Vayne fires the empowered attack)

So, if Vayne for some reason has 40% CDR (which she won't unless she's itemizing for cheese hilarity rather than DPS), a max-rank Tumble would have a 1.2-second CD. When she hits Final Hour, it goes down to 0.6 seconds. When she Tumbles, the ability's CD does not immediately start, nor does it start when she fires an auto. It starts when the projectile hits a target. ER refunds 20% of the remaining CD (not that that distinction matters when the ability's CD only started when the auto hit, anyway), in this case refunding 20% of 0.6 seconds, which is 0.12 seconds, for a remaining CD of 0.48 seconds. If her only CDR is from ER, Tumble's CD would be 1.6 seconds, or 0.8 during Final Hour, which would be reduced to 0.64 seconds by ER when the attack hits. If she's not burdening herself with cheese, it'll simply be 1 second.

So no, you are not correct.