That + the gutting of AD % pen.
Its ok tho my AAs are going to be cut by 1/3rd without even factoring any kind of armor.
Thanks riot, didnt want to be useful anyways as an adc.
GankedByWindows3 votesOnly on crits. Randuin's passive only works on crits, and is a pretty hefty investment. LW is much cheaper..
Rexxiee1 votesOnly on crits. Randuin's passive only works on crits, and is a pretty hefty investment. LW is much cheaper..
"only on crits"
Yeah execpt thats pretty much every other auto for adcs or more.
There was just no reason to double the crit reduction, it was fine at 10% and it was already overbearing for the adc to deal with early-mid game when combined with tabi, so lets just double it so adcs can do 20 damage autos to the 3k health tank, why not?
LW got nerfed, hard, its just completely unfair.
GankedByWindows1 votesRanduins lost 150 health and all the armor items are losing health as well. This will make the armor pen that we do get more effective. If you complete LDR the Giant Slayer (tankbuster) portion of it is getting buffed as well. It isn't all bad. This is coming from an adc main.
All of this also discounts the fact that crit is getting cheaper as well.
Automated Riven1 votesashe is gonna be super hard to be effect with tho. IMO. same with yasuo.
TheLastShadow451 votes
is only from crits.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesPls stop QQing.
Did you notice that tanks lost health on their items as well?
Besides, you'll be fine. You have supports and your own tanks to protect you from the scary enemy tanks.
Big Lincoln1 votesand ADC late game is a fair amount cheaper with the price reductions..
Rexxiee1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7q1XXm6x,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-05-03T02:02:45.206+0000)
and ADC late game is a fair amount cheaper with the price reductions..
200 on IE, wow so much cheaper!
Tabi + randuins = 4k gold.
What can an adc build against that for the same gold? IE and 2 daggers? Lmao.
Its just stupid, they said they wanted to make tanks less overbearing at 1 item spikes, so they nerf LW and every source of item % ad pen, buff randuins and doesnt nerf the already overpowered tabi.
Basically they want adcs to do jack shit.
Big Lincoln1 votesaren't the zeal items cheaper, or is it just zeal itself?
and welcome to carry builds, where you trade the strongest late game spike for the most expensive build.
Rexxiee1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7q1XXm6x,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-03T02:14:32.194+0000)
aren't the zeal items cheaper, or is it just zeal itself?
Only zeal, PD got a price increse by 50, the others still cost the same.
If you build botrk and IE you only gain 100 gold because botrk got a price increase aswell.
Big Lincoln1 votesmy mistake then
guess it's time for you to pioneer the bruiser ADC builds :^)
Rexxiee1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7q1XXm6x,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-03T02:14:32.194+0000)
aren't the zeal items cheaper, or is it just zeal itself?
and welcome to carry builds, where you trade the strongest late game spike for the most expensive build.
That would be fine if they didnt also nerf every LW item in this patch.
If they want to keep the oppressive tabi + 1 item power spikes then adcs should get their high pen late game, now their late game is nerfed and early game is still just as bad if not worse.
Oh well cant have adcs being strong for more than 1 or 2 patches at the time.
Big Lincoln1 votesdont get me wrong i'm fairly unsatisfied with this tank update too
was really hoping we'd see that stat shift out of items and towards the champs so tank Ekko/Fizz would fuck off for good, or at least a shift for tank items to be late game and not "i have 1 defensive item so I just get to win for the next 15 minutes"
but oh well :^)
Kinkou Order1 votesDoes damage still out scale defense?
If yes then it is fine.
Rexxiee1 votesPls stop QQing.
Did you notice that tanks lost health on their items as well?
Besides, you'll be fine. You have supports and your own tanks to protect you from the scary enemy tanks.
Lost health and gained armor, basically the same thing for them, this is only a buff for mages because they can do more damage now if they are building to fk the adc.