What is Kled supposed to be ?

option paralysis·Mar 5, 2017·4 votes·1,960 views

I like the champ because of his VO and how he looks and shit but I don't get what is he supposed to be. I mean, I see people build him full ad, but then again you need to hit someone 4 times to get the dmg off. Full ad in teamfights, I don't think you'll have time to stick to whoever for 4 hits. Then there's his ult, it's meant to get you in the heat of the battle and fuck shit up, but seeing as you need 4 hits and stack fervor to do something... it just looks counter productive to build him ad, but if you build tank, there are many better choices.. So, I don't really get what riot wanted him to be.

18 Comments

EschetonMar 5, 20172 votes

Angry

TheHurricaneGamrMar 5, 20172 votes

He's supposed to be build as a bruiser according to Riot, similar to Fiora. If you're looking at picking him up, try building item 3071 item 3748 as your two core items. Then build full tank and bring Fervor of battle as your keystone. With you get a lot of health, and all that health feeds into. You will straight up instagib any squishy and they will be able to do nothing to you because of how tanky you are.

CancerBasedGodMar 5, 20171 votes

An asshole

Shrek LuigiMar 5, 20171 votes

he's meant to scale off by the time teamfights start to happen. it's a tradeoff for having an extremely potent ganking tool and some of the best turret-diving potential of any champion. he's actually in a pretty good spot right now iirc--really good toplaner in particular because he can roam mid and squash whoever's there when his Ult is up in a very short time.

most kleds grab the HP+AD stuff like BC or Frozen Mallet or Sterakk or Titanic or something with Fervor and go for a sort of beefy-onhit build. his itemization is basically a balancing act between what he needs to survive vs what he needs to do damage, and if he doesn't strike a proper balance or falls behind it's harder to catch up with him than most.

RalanrMar 5, 20171 votes

He's supposed to be somewhat durable to make Skaarl tanky enough so that he can survive fights and utilize her mobility. Going full AD isn't something that's advisable unless you're an adc, assassin, or someone with really crazy defense mechanics. Kled is a skirmisher, a class known for their crazy defense mechanics, but his defense mechanic is Skaarl who benefits off of building like a bruiser rather than a full AD assassin.

You win extended fights, hence the four attacks. You are not meant to burst people like an assassin.

AmazoXMar 5, 20171 votes

Kled is a skirmisher.

Kukan SeishinMar 5, 20171 votes

Kled and Skarl are two badasses and you are on his land and they are gonna kill you for it

FaustavianMar 5, 20171 votes

Kled is supposed to be fun.

Big LincolnMar 5, 20171 votes

a juggernaut

5000000000000000Mar 6, 20171 votes

Definitely not a juggernaut with all the mobility

doodlebob666Mar 6, 20171 votes

then a diver thats just a juggernaut with mobility

Ariel the CruelMar 5, 20171 votes

A modernized Shyvana.

. . . I can't be the only one who thought this when his kit was revealed.

DunkinNoobsMar 6, 20172 votes

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A modernized Shyvana.

. . . I can't be the only one who thought this when his kit was revealed.

They do very different things.

Ariel the CruelMar 6, 20171 votes

They both go HAM and have no out after going HAM. They were both stated as having a design goal of rewarding the player for going HAM.

Granted, Kled is single target physical damage while Shyvana is AoE mixed damage. But their play patterns are close enough that if they were to make Shyvana today, I could see her being Kled.

Or maybe it genuinely is just me. I'll go back into my hole now.

RalanrMar 6, 20171 votes

I never saw Shyvana as someone who is supposed to go HAM specifically.

Xela SyabMar 5, 20171 votes

Kled is pretty much XinZhao but with better vo

SaltyKrackaMar 6, 20171 votes

AIDS

AnonagonMar 6, 20171 votes

Kled is a a Skirmisher in playstyle (see: Fiora, Riven), though his optimal build is much tankier than other Skirmishers. I imagine that the tanky build wasn't intended on Riot's part, though I don't think it has taken away from his Skirmisher playstyle, so I doubt that pushing him towards squishier builds is a high priority for them (though I wouldn't be surprised if they do so in the future).

Kled should generally be building something along the lines of: item 3748 item 3071 item 3111 item 3156 item 3143 item 3026

I imagine that this is what Riot would have wanted him to build as they were making him: item 3074 item 3071 item 3156 item 3111 item 3033 item 3026

Its not a huge difference, but the extra defenses of just Randuins and Titanic mean a lot when you have stupid high base health and an effective %missinghealth heal.