ADC never had so much diversity

Ahristocats··10 votes·1,189 views

Caitlyn Jhin Jinx MissFortune Vayne Ashe Ezreal Lucian are all nearly on the same level.

there isn't an adc above that dominates the other/basically free win and you can't do anything about that like how Lucian Jinx Tristana Ezreal were once. of course there are still underpowered picks, and this is due to riot not knowing how to balance their utility (Sivir ) or how to design their kite (Corki Kalista KogMaw )

neutral opinion on this one: Draven Tristana

now if only riot also made non-adc picks viable bot without designing special champions to go bot Mordekaiser item 3070

38 Comments

the weeaboo5 votes

Once again my favorite Plague Rat receive no attention, yet is one of the most drastically shifting ADCs in the past and future changes. I suppose that's a good thing.

Ahristocats2 votes

100% of the twitch players i saw were jungle so... just like Varus none plays him adc anymore, but mid with tear

Xonra2 votes

Not sure why this got downvoted when it is true.

Even pros are playing Varus mid, and NO ONE plays him adc anymore (and when I see it, it loses hard).

Also I haven't seen a Twitch as an adc for almost all of 2016 (not counting pro play here to be fair), and when I do, it is in the jungle.

Auld1 votes

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Not sure why this got downvoted when it is true.

Even pros are playing Varus mid, and NO ONE plays him adc anymore (and when I see it, it loses hard).

Also I haven't seen a Twitch as an adc for almost all of 2016 (not counting pro play here to be fair), and when I do, it is in the jungle.

Bet you feel silly saying this now.... Varus has moved back to ADC meta and his Mid playrate is >20% now over the 70% ADC pick.

Xonra1 votes

I sure don't sad kid who is posting to a response I made almost a month ago with some comments and stats that weren't relevant a month ago.

Slythion3 votes

to bad Morde rework in general was a failure, including their attempts to put him bot

Stephenizgod3 votes

Kalista is just bad champion design. If she is anything but total garbage, she dominates overwhelmingly.

Corki and Kog are more niche picks, they could use some work for sure though.

I see a lot of Jhins and Jinx, tbh and more Ezreal and Vayne than anyone wants, but there is a lot more diversity than before so it is a step up. Now we just need Top lane to be better.

THE RlVER KlNG3 votes

Yeah theyre on equal level of oppressive shits that deal way too much damage with either too much CC, mobility, or both.

Sahn Uzal2 votes

You forgot to list Darius mate :^)

Ahristocats1 votes

SHHHHHHHHHHHH

Mimy2 votes

Forgot someone. Varus xD

Xonra2 votes

He isn't really a good adc (specifically in bot lane) right now, nor played in bot lane as much as mid.

Mimy1 votes

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He isn't really a good adc (specifically in bot lane) right now, nor played in bot lane as much as mid.

I play him a lot as adc.. he's really good if you play him right.

Auld2 votes

As a Varus main, GTFO! He's coming back into the meta as an ADC, so please... share some love.

Mimy1 votes

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As a Varus main, GTFO! He's coming back into the meta as an ADC, so please... share some love.

IKR? varus is the dude!

Hige2 votes

Sivir is pretty good as well, two items and you can wreck a whole team ._. so she should be up there.

Trist is way easier to play than draven and she's really powerful as well.

Chatillon1 votes

Is your name a Wolfs Rain reference?

Hige1 votes

Yes :D! I also like the meaning of the word itself since I'm a beard enthusiast!

Chatillon1 votes

Lol, i just finished it the other day. It was a long and grueling experience but I know im better for having watched it.

The ending was terrible, in the sense im still upset at how everyone lived .....

Hubb ruined me :C

But It was a cool show, very deep

Tyrone Lannister1 votes

Im really liking trist at the moment. With how many caits im seeing, its wonderful to just jump on their faces and blow em up

Xonra1 votes

See this seems like it would be easy to deal with. I would just drop all my traps around me and stand on them.

Would be just headshot, trap, headshot, net, headshot. Cait isn't the adc she used to be that was so scared of anyone near her. A few well placed traps and hid nets and suddenly you regret being that Trist that decided to jump on top of her.

Tyrone Lannister1 votes

Trists greatest advantage over cait is her all in. The damage of E, W and the Q buffed autos is spooky. And the fact that trist can push cait in easier than most

warpenguin5551 votes

yeah for once its not 3 adcs then the rest being trash

Blackjaxxx2 votes

actually once you get to d2/d1/masters, it's all ezreal, caitlyn, jhin

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same shit every single fucking game

i can't stand these fucking threads, they're limited to the viewpoint of some low-mid tier elo shitter

maybe, fucking maybe, in 10% of my games I get a lucian or an MF or an ashe, or maybe a draven main

but that's it

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TheEvilQueen1351 votes

Teemo

Mimy1 votes

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Teemo

I would sacrifice a bit of his power for more range.. then people would accept him bot lane.. :(

I still take him bot lane as support tho. xD Hidden in the bushes.. >:3

OneMustFall1 votes

MissFortune is head and shoulders above the pack right now. Unlike other ADCs, she doesn't have a weak phase and is strong in any lane matchup as well.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

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Unlike other ADCs, she doesn't have a weak phase and is strong in any lane matchup as well.

hm, sounds like Jinx Jhin

ThugWalrus1 votes

hmm interesting post. I actually made a post yesterday about how I thought there was a lack of ADC diversity myself. I pretty much only see Ezreal, Cait, and Jhin in my games. I'm not making a statement about balance, just my personal experience

Meep Man1 votes

I don't think Corki KogMaw Graves Varus Quinn will ever be the best in Bottom Lane by design. They all are either balanced around being long range (which is favored them into Middle Lane), deal too much magic damage % overall (which favors them toward Middle Lane), or are too close range (which favors them toward Top or Jungle). Kalista Tristana Sivir Draven These guys could use some tweaks currently. Kalista is super overloaded and balanced around that fact, Tristana doesn't have a strong enough niche, Sivir needs to be stronger or balanced better around utility rather than damage, and Draven has a ton more competitors currently as "Lane Bully ADC" due to recent changes (although I have high hopes for Draven with the upcoming Furvor changes).

Top Lane: Graves Quinn Urgot Jungle: Graves Quinn Twitch Vayne KogMaw (LeeSin) Middle: Corki Varus KogMaw ADC: (insert every other Marksman)

Sahn Uzal1 votes

ADC: (insert every other Marksman)

Urgot

Meep Man2 votes

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Sahn Uzal1 votes

damn you're quick

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

there isn't an adc above that dominates the other/basically free win

Caitlyn MissFortune

Anonagon1 votes

ADC doesn't feel that way to me. While certainly a lot of picks are comparatively good in actual power level, diversity is mainly about how often you see champions, rather than how powerful they are. And when it comes to pick rates, ADCs clearly devolve into tiers -

Caitlyn Ezreal as exceptionally overpicked champions with ~30% pickrates (the only other champion in the game who is at that level is LeeSin , who could easily be argued to be crowding out the jungle right now)

Jhin Lucian Jinx Vayne as all the other ADCs you're likely to see in a game, each with ~20% pickrate

then there's everyone else, with 10% or less pickrates

That doesn't feel very diverse to me, especially since Caitlyn and Ezreal are picked for the same reason, safety, while the other four all share incredible snowballiness as a reason to pick them.

Xonra1 votes

I would agree except for Vayne. All of those champs can beat Vayne in lane, and most of them don't fall off for as hard as she can scale.

I would say replace Vayne with Sivir and I would fully agree. I'm not sure why you put her in the "under-powered picks" section.

Ahristocats1 votes

sivir used to be picked a lot in pro play, and she isn't anymore maybe she's still good my bad i just needed a reference since i don't see her in soloQ

Vayne i mean if vayne was terrible, why would people pick her so much?

Otter Fire1 votes

Kog'Maw's kit is fine! It's meant to be unique, it has under rated utility and damage that no one would expect. Kog'Maw's kit and style gives him room to play in a wider variety of lanes (I can in addition to ADC Bot, go AP Mid and AS Jungle) than most other marksman. His Kit does make his item build a little unstable, but still flexible. Kog'Maw main, out * mic drop*

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