Tanks

Radiant Wukong·2/21/2020, 12:55:30 AM·1 votes·2,824 views

I hate to be thr guy to go against the grain, but let's be honest, tanks are tanky if you build for tankiness and utilize their kits effectively.

My minimal surviving time is at least 12 seconds when using Sett Darius Volibear MonkeyKing Chogath Yorick Shen Nasus Trundle Olaf Poppy etc etc

Even when I face check a full team solo to ward dragon or baron I'm guaranteed to survive at least 7 seconds and do enough damage to stop their attempt, giving my 4 teammates a chance to steal until I revive.

And it's not even full tank or I'm sure my survivability would ho up 10 fold. I always have at least 2 or 3 hybrid items such item 3071 item 3748item 3074 item 3812 item 3053

In a winning team fight where I initiate as Wukong, Sett, Volibear or Darius and get focused killed I'm normally CC'd for 8+ seconds but survibe for 14+

And sometimes I don't even use the resolve tree, I just build for the enemy team comp such as rushing a item 3075 or item 3194 early game.

TL;DR tanks are fine when you play as an actual tank. Too many times I see these damage creep post but then I see full ap/hp Amumu or ad/hp Sett in your match history. A bunch of hp doesn't qualify you as tank. You should have 150+ resistances and 200+ to account for pen if your kit doesn't have innate sustain.

21 Comments

MrFawknSunshine2/21/2020, 1:44:33 AM4 votes

well you mentioned two tanks.

that being shen and poppy

Hemulen Magi2/21/2020, 1:44:59 AM3 votes

Frontliners have slowly regained durability as Riot has made progress to rebalance the game this season. I can firmly say that things have gotten better, at least in my personal experience. I'm surviving 3-10 seconds in fights where I was dying in 2-3 seconds in fights a few months ago as a tank.

The game is still too snowbally, as it always has been, but tanking can work again as long as you don't fall behind your opponents. It's just that trying to build defensive items won't reliably do anything to slow down one or more fed opponents once you start to fall behind. If your mid laner fed that Yasuo, even full armor isn't going to be enough to fulfill your tank role, but that has always been the nature of the game.

Other than reducing snowballing advantage, I think all defense needs to be popular is some hype, like a new resolve keystone and/or some new tank items with fun active effects.

Chainman32/21/2020, 1:15:29 AM2 votes

Thigh guy is gonna respond to this and say bruisers arent tanks so be ready for that.

VonCesaw2/21/2020, 5:35:55 AM1 votes

Sett Darius Volibear MonkeyKing Yorick Nasus Trundle Olaf THESE ARE ALL FIGHTERS THAT BUILD TANK ITEMS

Darkdemon6532/21/2020, 1:13:59 PM1 votes

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I hate to be thr guy to go against the grain, but let's be honest, tanks are tanky if you build for tankiness and utilize their kits effectively.

My minimal surviving time is at least 12 seconds when using Sett Darius Volibear MonkeyKing Chogath Yorick Shen Nasus Trundle Olaf Poppy etc etc

Even when I face check a full team solo to ward dragon or baron I'm guaranteed to survive at least 7 seconds and do enough damage to stop their attempt, giving my 4 teammates a chance to steal until I revive.

And it's not even full tank or I'm sure my survivability would ho up 10 fold. I always have at least 2 or 3 hybrid items such item 3071 item 3748item 3074 item 3812 item 3053

In a winning team fight where I initiate as Wukong, Sett, Volibear or Darius and get focused killed I'm normally CC'd for 8+ seconds but survibe for 14+

And sometimes I don't even use the resolve tree, I just build for the enemy team comp such as rushing a item 3075 or item 3194 early game.

TL;DR tanks are fine when you play as an actual tank. Too many times I see these damage creep post but then I see full ap/hp Amumu or ad/hp Sett in your match history. A bunch of hp doesn't qualify you as tank. You should have 150+ resistances and 200+ to account for pen if your kit doesn't have innate sustain.

Two out of the eleven champions you listed are tanks and two out of the seven items you listed are tank items.