Seriously, it's insane how much stuff has CDR. Sure, some champions don't typically itemize heavy CDR due to their itemization and needs but that feels like a small pool. Most of the champions I play I find myself being reluctant to build an item because it'd put be over the CDR cap. I know I probably shouldn't care so much but the cost ineffeciency of it bugs me lol
DeathBurst33 votes10% CDR is roughly worth 300g. It's negligible compared to the worth of a full item. If you want an item, build it, even if it puts you at 50% CDR.
It's worth thinking a bit about optimizing your build paths, but people really over-think this "overshooting CDR cap" issue...
HateDaddy3 votes10% CDR is roughly worth 300g. It's negligible compared to the worth of a full item. If you want an item, build it, even if it puts you at 50% CDR.
It's worth thinking a bit about optimizing your build paths, but people really over-think this "overshooting CDR cap" issue...
Generally I don't disagree but there are items that you're building strictly for CDR. Frozen heart is a perfect example of this, most champions don't care about the mana and the armor can be obtained in other items while you're also optimizing your capacity to tank by building both HP and armor, frozen heart and it's price of 2800g seems a bit unreasonable. I'm not asking for it to be buffed but at this point, just reduce its cost and have it only give 10% CDR. Say, 2400g (down from 2800) and have it give 10% CDR.
There are a lot of items like this that you're itemizing strictly for CDR and for slot effiency sake, it does matter in terms of combat.
Auz the Ripper11 votesi'd argue that frozen heart is most often build for its passive rather than for CDR
GrReaper9617 votes
bam max cdr
Seriously we should limit the cdr to 10% per item ( expect maybe 
)
Utility Veigar16 votesDoes it matter if you overcap in cdr? As long as you get the necessary stats, it shouldn't bother you. Remember when Bjersgsen built two Morellonomicon in tournament play and people thought it was silly because the unique passive didn't stack until everyone realized it's because the item had amazing stats? The same can be applied here. Who cares about capping cdr.
Autrah Fang12 voteswell, people were complaining about it being hard to itemize CDR on a mage before... so Riot said "you know what? put CDR on ALL THE ITEMS!!"
so i say, blame the people who were complaining about CDR before the mage update [slayer-jinx-wink]
Lirik2 votesmore like blame riot to give exterm stupid solutions.
Zero Skill Tank9 votesThe thing is, instead of giving new CDR-focused option for mages RITO put CDR on situational items. It's really hard to make sane CDR oriented builds, because you can not know if you will need any of 
. You would need 2, 3 rune sets for your champions to ensure you have enough CDR, but you won't overdo it.
GrReaper964 votesTo be honest besides and 
all other ap cdr items give kinda bad ap amounts.
LadyRenly11 votesIt feels bad sometimes, lol I get this on some champs like Mordekaiser it's just too easy 
alone gives 30%, if they have any AP carries that pretty much means I'll be taking which is another 10% and a 
putting me to 50%
I thought cdr was something that you'd have to go out of your way to build for, not make everyone have at least 30% cdr and nerf champ cds to adjust for the fact they are building max cdr now(then why offer it in the first place)
ForeverLaxx9 votesI've been saying that for awhile now, and CDR is getting so easy to have incidentally that champions are starting to be built around and balanced under the assumption they'll be at the cap. Sort of makes the stat useless and cost-inflating when you're at that point.
Supreme Senpai695 votesLike how everybody took flash so champions were balanced around flash so everybody is forced to take flash with few exceptions.
dunkeroni8 votesAll of season 5: "WE WANT MORE CDR ITEMS"
Now: "WE WANT MORE BASE STAT ITEMS"
Hyrum Graff25 votesAll of season 5: "WE WANT MORE CDR ITEMS"
Now: "WE WANT MORE BASE STAT ITEMS"
There is a happy medium somewhere
TequilaZombie5 votesAll I want is DFG back
NineTailedMystic12 votesplsno
TequilaZombie2 votesOhh, like DFG would be OP today.
When DFG was a the biggest problem the game was much more fun.
NineTailedMystic2 votesI don't want Ahri nerfed for it though.
Ayasaki1233 votesAhri was also a lot more fun when DFG was still around. Her combo felt a lot more intricate.
Ariel the Cruel5 votesdebateable.
Nuparu6 votesDFG W R R R
RookPusher7 votesThe problem for me isn't the ubiquitous nature of CDR but that it's omniprescence means CDR isn't nearly as valuable.
In other words, if everyone can easily get 45% CDR, then why not standardize it and take it off items?
The Yetii Rider2 votesThe problem for me isn't the ubiquitous nature of CDR but that it's omniprescence means CDR isn't nearly as valuable.
In other words, if everyone can easily get 45% CDR, then why not standardize it and take it off items?
Because it is still tied to gold, thus if you fall behind or feed your opponent will cap before you do?
Project omen7 votesRiot started with giving easy access to cdr through items and now they are trying to balance champions around it. Mages in particular. Take 
for example.
Gosh Darn6 votesThis is an especially big problem on supports. An eye item is almost mandatory, there's 10% CDR. Athene's is 20%, any kind of aura item such as locket or banner caps you out to 40% CDR.
I can't get Zhonya's, Abysal sceptre, Frozen heart, spirit visage, warmog's, etc without completely wasting the CDR. Before anyone says "Hurp durp just get the item and waste the cdr", cdr is very expensive. 10% CDR is over 300 gold. That's a ton of money and wastes an item slot, especially for supports who live on scraps from assists and have their inventory clogged with ~2100g items as is.
Duke Anax3 votesTheren were games where I said, screw the gold I want the item and ended up with 80% CDR, that's 1200 Gold wasted, which is a lot for a support. Only can do that when I'm fed anyway.
redfeenix4 votesBump, CD-R is way too common for mages. However other classes have less options. This should be looked at for sure
4th3t0s56 votes 
sorry, what?
Ralanr23 votesAdd in IBG, Visage, and FH and you've covered the basic tank sources of CDR.
Sire Hippington22 votesleft and forgotten...
Sire Hippington11 votes
( ) just to complete the cdr for ad set
SaltyKracka2 votesSame. It's gotten to the point where I find myself skipping out on Glacial Shroud items on Nasus now.
HateDaddy3 votesSame. It's gotten to the point where I find myself skipping out on Glacial Shroud items on Nasus now.
Right??? Lol
i want spirit visage not only because of its CDR, but it's HP and 25% healing increase
I want frozen heart because of mana, armor and it's CDR
Sheen items are a must on Nasus at this point and Trinity and iceborn both give 20%
So i need to sacrifice something if I don't want to overbuild CDR
Linna Excel4 votesOr just shrug and overbuild CDR if the rest of the item is good for you. I don't need the mana on Shyvana, but I'll still get a TF on her.
SaltyKracka2 votesThat's just you building badly, though. Shyvana has never been good with TF.
Zonkman4 votesThat is false try it out
Profirix7 votesTF is amazing on Shyvana...I have no idea what you are talking about. Shes probably my highest win rate jungler. If I have room for damage, I consider TF. Especially now that they have removed critical strike and upped the attack speed.
dapositiveviking6 votestrinity force is good on any melee auto attacker with an aa reset
BakedLotion5 votesThat's just you building badly, though. Shyvana has never been good with TF.
Or he wants to have fun because it's definitely viable.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesgive us a 10% cdr armor item that isn't ohmwrecker.
Profirix6 votesTalisman of Ascension.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votes[{quoted}](name=I Blame Adam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7OUfnFZu,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-06-30T18:16:30.416+0000)
Talisman of Ascension.
thats a support item. but it might be a good buy on some top laners later in the game
67chrome1 votesI never got this argument.
LoL is a 5v5 game, you have plenty of opportunities to help out teammates and doing so will often cause you to win. Supports also have awful income, it's not like they're going to buy all of the support items in the game.
NineTailedMystic4 votesbecause support items are usually dirt cheap, but have awful stats to compensate.
Punching Top4 votes (it still gives 10% cdr and armor although it's AP item)
Milky Star2 voteswell obiviously we need to raise the cdr cap :P
Keepe3 votesYes. We must make Urf reality. ALL HAIL THE ONE TRUE KING! URF!
as well