Champs that have been S tier for multiple patches that are untouched :
All need significant nerfs, stop with damage creep by buffing shit like 
damage (like wtf, who in the world thought he needed MORE DAMAGE?), hes also probably gonna need that buff reverted.
AquariusGine24 votesThe champions they're buffing are the champions that need nerfing
[sg-lulu]
Póppy Chulo12 votesThey cant nerf 
cause they all getting Pop skins
dogehkiin10 votesStart by changing duskblade and stormrazor after that nerf the damage of every single champ, then nerf everything that's strong.
Nea1048 votesHem... We are basically in October :D 19 patches. Worse and worse. They've expliticly admitted that their "balancing" isn't for who actually plays their game, but only for a couple of dudes in LCS.
Why are you still hoping they're gonna do something reasonable? :P
Hammermancer6 votesNah kust keep buffing everyone until everyone feels unique again and the op bs starts to balance itself out bc of other op bs
Warlord Rhinark28 votes[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7IIgW89d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-26T15:58:00.230+0000)
Nah kust keep buffing everyone until everyone feels unique again and the op bs starts to balance itself out bc of other op bs
Isn't the alternative a hundred times better?
Hammermancer11 votesHomogenizing everyone til the point that it all feels the same, and then most of the players quit like in WoW?
Warlord Rhinark6 votes[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7IIgW89d,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-26T16:56:42.327+0000)
Homogenizing everyone til the point that it all feels the same, and then most of the players quit like in WoW?
Didn't every champion at the dawn of League feel the same and yet it still turned out to be one of the most successful games?
Hell, some champions still feel the same now (cough Aatrox and Riven cough)
SangreDeNoche7 votes[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7IIgW89d,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-26T16:56:42.327+0000)
Homogenizing everyone til the point that it all feels the same, and then most of the players quit like in WoW?
Champs were capable of being more homogenized during old runes because you could patch weaknesses with stats. Game was 1000% more fun and balanced.
Ratpie4 votesChamps were capable of being more homogenized during old runes because you could patch weaknesses with stats. Game was 1000% more fun and balanced.
So much this. This game has been extremely unbalanced ever since the new runes. The extremity between meta and nonmeta is just ugly now. Before off meta I could still do well. Now its an uphill battle. I think one good step would be to separate the stats from the runes and let them be customized.
Faceroll Tactics4 votesOr just remove runes and masteries.
Dota 2 has been kicking league’s ass in game balance since the game released, and they do it because dota heroes are so wildly different. Removing the system that makes each class take the same things would be a step towards this
SangreDeNoche2 votesSo much this. This game has been extremely unbalanced ever since the new runes. The extremity between meta and nonmeta is just ugly now. Before off meta I could still do well. Now its an uphill battle. I think one good step would be to separate the stats from the runes and let them be customized.
Like what riot said theoretically made some sense. If people are keeping the same ad/ap/pen/regen runes every game, might as well remove those and buff the champions in those areas up to where they were. Not brooding on the fact that they didn't do that, the problem comes from the runes we often swapped in and out, the health, the mr, the armor, THE MOVE SPEED! Sometimes it was better to have scaling health or health regen than flat health or armor/mr. There are so many champions in the game that interact with you in so many ways, the ability to change stats like these to be prepared before your first item meant those who learned the game were rewarded by dying much less in lane. What I'm getting to is that stats like these can change with the match up and thus should be the primary candidates for runes reforged slots. Damage in its current rune form is simply not needed and even if riot wants to spice things up outside of experimental items by just skipping straight to cooky passives/actives the way they've done with some runes, it should've been done side to side with the promised stats we lost with old runes.
Spârky1 votes[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7IIgW89d,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-26T16:14:59.445+0000)
Isn't the alternative a hundred times better?
actually he's not wrong. If they buff everything it will be balanced as before. Just instead of everyone doing 1 dmg (an example) everyone will be doing 2 dmg
JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE3 votesKeep buffing everyone and everything you get what we have now, people killing eachother in less than 2 seconds and team fights that only last 5-9 seconds.
Alzon1 votes”I’ll give them damage. I’ll give them the most spectacular damage anyone’s ever seen! Everyone can be OP! And when everyone’s OP... heh heh heh... no one will be.”
wolvius1 votes”I’ll give them damage. I’ll give them the most spectacular damage anyone’s ever seen! Everyone can be OP! And when everyone’s OP... heh heh heh... no one will be.”
Too Late,.. fifteen years too late.
Akali just needs is a nerf to her shroud like when under enemy tower, keep the tower won't target her unless leave shroud but after half duration has elapsed make her targetable by champion abilities. 8 seconds of being zoned under your own tower for no trade off is stupid.
MadNoff5 votesI cannot support a thread which throws shade at Jax, but I agree nerfs are needed for everyone on your apart from Jax.
demoted to iron4 voteshow? jax is so ridiculous rn. He can actually 1v9 currently, which no other champ in the game can do, or should realistically be able to do given how the game works.
iTaLenTZ4 votesYou forgot 
and true damage in general
Noor Sakata13 votesYou forgot
and true damage in general
You should take Heimer and Cho and Ahri and Fiora out of your list lol , not everything you hate must be nerfed
AirKingNeo4 votesand Vel, Yasuo, Yi.
They aren't OP either.
ZackTheWaffleMan1 votesHeimer has a suspicious winrate in botlane
Daddy Ants4 votesHere's what needs nerfing
SnugglePuggle944 votesNami doesn't need nerfs. Wtf. She's pretty balanced right now. Only a high winrate because she thrives in this meta compared to other supports.
Mordepool4 votesNami needs hard nerfs.
SnugglePuggle945 votesNo she does not. She's fine as is.
Blåbæret5 votesNo she does not. She's fine as is.
She's been sleeper broken overpowered for several months straight. The champ is pure cancer in lane and needs to be nerfed.
SnugglePuggle945 votesNo she has not been that. Pure cancer is Pyke. Nami is fine.
Whistersnivet1 votesNo she has not been that. Pure cancer is Pyke. Nami is fine.
I'm just gonna take a wild guess and say you're a support main.
Faceroll Tactics4 votesShe is a enchanter support with poke and cc. Jack of all trade-type characters are cancer if not handicapped.
SnugglePuggle943 votesBut she's not OP. She just has a good kit that goes well with the meta.
Infernape4 votesA little too well. She needs a toning down slightly.
SnugglePuggle941 votesNo she does not. She's fine as is.
Fízz v25 votes"my champ isnt op i swear its just the meta " lel
SnugglePuggle941 votesThat's not nice. She really is not that strong right now as everyone makes her out to be.
limebuster3 votesi agree completely with you here, regardless of the winrates some of them have, they are all extremely opressive to play against right now due to the sheer little counterplay most of the champions u have stated have, with this little counterplay and extremely good kits with great damage, the champions deserve nerfs and its time for the balance team to crack down on them.
Śhunpo3 votes
Nerf her harder so that she becomes the legitimate worst champion in the game. Then they can revert her rework, giving us the Shunpo we deserve, one with a low cast time.
[katarina-love]
Dom Daddy Asol8 voteskat mains crying about their blink OMEGALUL
Wife In Lantern3 voteskassadin is good right now because of his lane sustain build with fleet footwork and taste of blood/ravenous hunter Overall he is in a very decent spot right now but i don't think it is nerf worthy (and i don't even play kassadin) I don't know how many games i've been winning when suddenly the 1/6 kasssadin hits late game and starts oneshotting people but his early game weakness is still easily abusable (by no means is he unbearably strong) In fact, there is no champion in your list that i think deserves a nerf (with the exception of akali, that champion is sadly stupid retarded) Everything else has abusable points in the game and can be outplayed. I think riot should only nerf champions that are truly broken. You have to consider that every time they nerf a champion they lose a portion of the playerbase who devoted time and energy into that champion just so that people like YOU can have an easier time playing the game. They need to consider whether it is truly worth the nerf and if it;s actually justified. It can leave people feeling frustrated. Like, i hated zoe too, i thought she was pure cancer to lane against and to play against but i still agree that she has a high learning cap and takes skill to master. I didn't agree with her nerfs and think that she would have been fine the way she was (even though she was cancer)
melior sum2 votesNo one needs any nerfs, the weaker champions need buffs
Shobek11 votes[{quoted}](name=Not Grouping,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7IIgW89d,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-26T17:45:45.401+0000)
No one needs any nerfs, the weaker champions need buffs
This is how the Damage Creep happened.
melior sum1 votesNo, damage creep happened because the core defensive fundamental was taken away, defense runes.
Shobek1 votesThis is how the Damage Creep happened.
Man. I super love you for pointing out the damage that taking away old runes did.
Riot did however adjust stats a to compensate a bit. Defensive runes being taken away is not the only reason that damage creep is happening; OP champs and items are also reasons.
Hügö2 votesI guess you are new here [sg-miss-fortune]
Bμbble Butt2 votesGuys, don't buy skins if you really believe this to be true.
Money speaks louder than words to a company. Send the message and stop buying RP
Emmy Cha0s1 votesWay ahead of you, brah! I haven't bought skins ever since Patch 4.13 was prematurely forced onto Live in direct opposition to the entire playerbase!
Arcane Blue Boi2 votesUnpopular opinion If you nerf S tiers, other S tiers will apear If you buff champions to be able to compete with S tiers, the S tiers will have more champions S tiers will always be a thing. If you nerf say S tier kassadin, another S tier will stand out and people will beg for nerfs Riot just needs to buff the right champions not fucking khazix or darius
AMADEUSdotEXE1 votesUnpopular opinion If you nerf S tiers, other S tiers will apear If you buff champions to be able to compete with S tiers, the S tiers will have more champions S tiers will always be a thing. If you nerf say S tier kassadin, another S tier will stand out and people will beg for nerfs Riot just needs to buff the right champions not fucking khazix or darius
Or they could stop listening to people like you and slow down with the damn buffs and send out a nerf or two. Apparently Pyke is/was terrorizing High elo.
AMADEUSdotEXE1 votesWait Kassadin doesn't feel like shit to play anymore!??
Infernape6 votesNope. Fleet Footwork, Taste of Blood and Ravenous Hunter for runes and starting Corrupting Potion then getting a early Dark Seal basically erases his early game weakness. The sustain is godly.
