One champ I really feel needs an update but it hardly gets mentioned anymore

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Kayle

Id describe her playstyle as an expected struggle early-mid game but if they're lucky enough to survive until they complete a full AS+On-Hit Runnan's build they're suddenly broken and can 1v5.

Yea it's viable but inconsistent and unreliable(and a bit bland).

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PermabannedGaren21 votes

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Kayle

Id describe her playstyle as an expected struggle early-mid game but if they're lucky enough to survive until they complete a full AS+On-Hit Runnan's build they're suddenly broken and can 1v5.

Yea it's viable but inconsistent and unreliable(and a bit bland).

Yeah you must really struggle early game against the melee top laners who can't even touch you without eating your targeted damage.

TheySeeMeWardin4 votes

I wish more people cared about her, mostly because Riot said they'd look at giving Morg a small rework when they did Kayle's but also because the whole knight angle thing could be done better.

Shuyin1782 votes

I want to like Kayle, but I don't get her at all. There is something about her that just pushes me from being able to use her.

Raengoku6 votes

Ive never heard of a knight angle, is it similar to the acute ones?

Ferus and Ferrum3 votes

Get out.

Spârky3 votes

Lol

Martensitic3 votes

Yea it's viable but inconsistent and unreliable(and a bit bland).

Whut?

https://champion.gg/champion/Kayle/Top

Strongest (by average winrate Plat+) toplane champion FOR THE LAST 7 PATCHES.

I call that anything but "incosistent and unreliable").

DunkinNoobs7 votes

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Whut?

https://champion.gg/champion/Kayle/Top

Strongest (by average winrate Plat+) toplane champion FOR THE LAST 7 PATCHES.

I call that anything but "incosistent and unreliable").

It** is** inconsistent and unreliable, especially as a top laner. She's probably the easiest top laner to camp in the entire game and this fact alone makes her unreliable. However, if she makes it through the laning phase in decent shape, she's broken. Kayle also struggles hard against longer ranged teams with lots of AOE and absolutely dominates shorter ranged teams, making her even more unreliable. All in all, it comes out massively in Kayle's favor but there are still plenty of games where she's doomed from the start.

Noblewind1 votes

Just that part though 'survive laning phase in decent shape and she's broken' = broken. Not going to happen every game sure, but if that's your win condition, all things equal I would call that very reliable.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

It's unreliable in the sense that it's largely out of her control. Kayle naturally pushes and has no escape so any jungler that wants to camp her is going to be able to. It's not much better as a jungler; you're a piss poor early duelist so nearly any invading jungler can just have their way with you. Yes, Kayle is broken if she makes it out of laning phase in decent shape, but whether or not that happens is largely dependent on her opponent rather than herself, which makes her unreliable.

Zedex2 votes

She's had one of the highest winrates in toplane all season, I think she does what she's intended to do just fine.

Only Play Darius2 votes

"Lucky enough to survive" hmm that must be why she has been top winrate toplaner for that last few months huh

SithesisLord2 votes

With a very low ban rate and pick rate. Mains and OTPs inflating her winrate to no end, Fervor + Guinsoo's buffed.

And yes, all things considered, if you are lucky enough to survive past early game and the majority of mid game, Kayle shines. Otherwise, she's just a resistance shred/ult bot with no mobility and very little utility.

Almost no one plays her, which is good, because not everyone should or can play her to the maximum of the macroplay skill she's based around of. And almost no one bans her, which is also good, because it opens up space for actually unbalanced champions to be banned.

I´m happy for the fact her VGU won´t happen for a long while, most likely for the majority of season 7 and most of season 8. And when it does, very little will actually be changed if Riot does intend to follow the new class/subclass system.

Shuyin1781 votes

90+% of the playerbase has no clue how to even build her anymore. Do we full AP? Do we Attack Speed? Do we hybrid? Nobody knows what is the most effective on her.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

a lot of people said she needs a rework. because shes cancer.

shes ben the highest winrate top laner for a year now. sure playrate low but its now as low as someone like mordekaiser that only his mains play hm

Dolasaur1 votes

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a lot of people said she needs a rework. because shes cancer.

shes ben the highest winrate top laner for a year now. sure playrate low but its now as low as someone like mordekaiser that only his mains play hm

She's hardly FotM. Her top lane average games played is practically the same as Morde's despite her play rate being higher. And her play rate is pretty low. Not as low as Morde's for sure, but she doesn't even make the top 30 most frequently played top laners.

Oleandervine1 votes

She actually has been in recent talks by reds about VGUs. The consensus is that she won't be changed anytime soon, but when they do, it will be a duo VGU with Morgana.

Kitty Hole1 votes

I see, so you play her as support. She is a mixed damage fighter. Thunderlords Decree and item 3100 are your best friends. Make sure to put 5 in intelligence (Cunning tree) to keep your E lit at 35% cdr.

Starboyˇ1 votes

Aatrox

VoraciousX1 votes

Just go 28% attack speed in runes(or was it 27%?) and get item 3124 item 3091 item 3115 and you're golden.

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