Adcs are becoming so irrelevant that they are being replaced by mages bot lane

RexSaur·Jan 3, 2017·4 votes·1,610 views

Ziggs does what one the stronger adc does (cait) but better.

Meanwhile on this forum : "NERF CAIT TWITCH VAYNE SO OP OMG."

Its obvious that nobody here wants adc to be playable class, they want every adc to be as bad as kalista/jinx/sivir/ashe/etc are right now, so instead of suggesting solutions so other adcs can also be as good as the better ones they want the class to be shit tier.

If you nerf cait twitch and vayne further ppl arent going to start playing ashe or jinx, they are going to play cass, ryze, veigar, zyra and azir as the bot lane carries, in fact double mage combos like zyra + brand already crap over almost every adc other than cait and ezreal (they actually destroy those 2 aswell its just that they can actually farm against them atleast).

8 Comments

dominusxJan 4, 20174 votes

Irelevant.

1: 800dmg per auto to non tank targets per 0.7 seconds maybe less bored to do the math. 500dmg to tanks with 3 armor items easily. 2: higher range by default 3: extreme amounts of lifesteal to the point you can use bruisers and non thormnail tanks as HP restoration units 4: they kill towers faster than most champs 5: they take drag/baron faster than most champs 6: you litterally get 800hp worth of shields with 2 items 7: assasins cant even kill you because you do more dmg than them in those 2 seconds needed for the assasin to blow his load. 8: you got a champ to babysit you.

cons? lets see 1: weak lane phase? a joke with warlords 2: gold relient? big deal midlaners too and every champ. 3: squishy? ofc you go 5/6 ad items even tho even assasins right now go with 2 pure tank items to be relevant 4:immobile? sure yeh a few champs are immobile but make up with utility and generally you kill people before they manage to combo you anyway 5:high skillcap? 70% of your dmg requires you to press mouse button 2 and its non counterable mechanicly and has no internal cooldown except Jhin/Graves

Now please shut your damn mouth adcs are broken not irelevant you just suck at the game. You said Jinx/sivir are bad? Yeh maybe aoe crits of 700dmg is bad in low elo.

Edit: before you say but im diamond im high elo no just no diamond isnt even high elo anymore outside d1 and you were d4 peak at season 5 took the liberty of looking you up. if you wanna look me up go to whirlingdeathx eune this is my last nonBanned account.also i never stated i'm good at the game before you spout bs.

JappieXDJan 5, 20171 votes

Yes ADC's get stronger when the game goes on. But they are so bad before they hit their spikes that mages probaply just outclass them. In any case we have to see what direction this takes.

RixylJan 6, 20171 votes

Lets suppose ADC's are "broken" as you say, where should their highest winrate champion be? As of today it is Miss Fortune. Shouldn't someone "broken" be in the top 10 winrates? Well she isn't. Maybe in the top 20's? Nope, shes number 34 in terms of highest winrate. Are you genuinely going to suggest that a collective role is overpowered if their leading champ in winrate is less than the top 30's? That seems like extreme arrogance to me.

dominusxJan 6, 20171 votes

rengar was competely broken after he rework and on average had a 45-47% win rate. Azir had also around 48% when he was broken.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJan 4, 20172 votes

you got downvoted for being honest and stating the truth ...

there is little or no reason to be an adc player. majority of mages out range you , have aoe/burst and cc

other champs have such high mobility and can dash and close in on you.

at any point any adc has higher then 50% win rate the community cries how they are OP and unfair, offer no counter play or are oppressive to play against.

oh and people cry there is no counter play to the range of adcs which is funny cuz so many champs have range abilities of some sort.

AstôlfoJan 5, 20172 votes

Why must you always make shitposts, RexSaur?

TheKemperorJan 4, 20171 votes

Are Ashe, Sivir, and Jinx bad right now? Ashe has good initiation, infinite slows, and a pretty low skill cap. Sivir, while lacking a strong laning phase, splitpushes like a god, and has pretty good AOE damage in teamfights, without building a Runaans. Jinx is still the terrifying hyper-carry she always was. Of the current ADC's only Kalista and Lucian seem to be in a bad spot. Vayne was, and still can be quite OP, as she is supposed to be an ADC and an Assassin, having both high burst and good sustained damge, as well as invisibility. Of the mages you listed as replacing ADCs, I can really only see Cass, maybe Veigar, as they are both pretty farm reliant APCs. Ryze is simply better suited mid or top, as most adcs can out range him, his main counter, Zyra lacks the damage to be an APC, part of the reason she isn't played mid anymore. Azir, despite the recent buffs, is still pretty bad early game, and would be easily beaten by an early game bully, such as Draven.