Quin's Attack speed

Woook3r·Mar 4, 2016·1 votes·1,027 views

She has entirely too much attack speed for a champion which builds pure dmg items and no attack speed.

19 Comments

Phoenix Kotori Mar 4, 20164 votes

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She has entirely too much attack speed for a champion which builds pure dmg items and no attack speed.

The quinn in your game built 2 AS items and an item with an AS active, maybe you should look at their build before you complain.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

I know she built static shyv. She built it so that she could get crit and cooldown reduction.

She gets more as from her passive than you would get from an attack speed item anyway. She has more as than you would have from two items, while only having one as item and she depends on the attack speed to get her burst in.. Shes a fucking assassin with insane dps. Don't defend her.

Edit. I made a comment because I finally figured out why she is so broken. She can out dps and out burst. That's not right.

AlwaysByMySideMar 4, 20161 votes

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I know she built static shyv. She built it so that she could get crit and cooldown reduction.

She gets more as from her passive than you would get from an attack speed item anyway. She has more as than you would have from two items, while only having one as item and she depends on the attack speed to get her burst in.. Shes a fucking assassin with insane dps. Don't defend her.

Edit. I made a comment because I finally figured out why she is so broken. She can out dps and out burst. That's not right.

Quinn's passive doesn't give her attack speed.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

she has a passive on heightened senses or something. When she procs vulnerability she gets up to 40% attack speed and her next attack is for 150% dmg.

AlwaysByMySideMar 4, 20161 votes

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she has a passive on heightened senses or something. When she procs vulnerability she gets up to 40% attack speed and her next attack is for 150% dmg.

No, you're 100% wrong. Harrier only gives her bonus damage for the attack on the vulnerable target, no attack speed.

If you don't actually know what the champion does, why do you comment on their balance?

SachabotMar 4, 20163 votes

Quinn's rework changed that. Once she has her W, she gains bonus AS for a few seconds for attacking a Vulnerable target. It scales up to 40%, though, not starting there.

Homework, people.

AlwaysByMySideMar 4, 20161 votes

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Quinn's rework changed that. Once she has her W, she gains bonus AS for a few seconds for attacking a Vulnerable target. It scales up to 40%, though, not starting there.

Homework, people.

Huh, I stand corrected. +1

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

the plus one should go to me as I was the one originally in the right. just saying.

ModWulf HelhammerMar 4, 20162 votes

Actually it always had AS

MiraweaveMar 4, 20162 votes

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Quinn's rework changed that. Once she has her W, she gains bonus AS for a few seconds for attacking a Vulnerable target. It scales up to 40%, though, not starting there.

Homework, people.

It wasn't the rework. Her W has always had a passive which gave AS and MS when she hits a marked target.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

go look up her w.

SachabotMar 4, 20164 votes

Are you fucking kidding? Quinn depends on her spell casts to get her burst, which comes from Harrier, and why she builds pure damage. AS is icing on a delicious DPS cake, not her mainstay. Because she's not a pure assassin, nor is she a pure marksman. Unlike Twitch, she's really good at being both, and the ability to be both is why she's picked.

That being said, she suffers from slows more than most assassins, and if she can't burst you down then you can probably kill her before her damage can come through. That's why you pick Malph or Naut into her top. Illaoi was a bad choice for your teammate. No CC or real way to catch Quinn.

That Quinn built three items that grant AS, though, so you know, I don't think her passive AS is as insane as you think.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

idk man. it feels like she attacks just as much as an adc with two as items.

also, yea I didn't consider boots.

Phoenix Kotori Mar 4, 20162 votes

She gets more as from her passive than you would get from an attack speed item anyway.

Only at max rank 5% than Shiv for 2 seconds wow.

Shes a fucking assassin with insane dps. Don't defend her.

Not really either she builds for dps or burst, unless you let her Q > AA > E > AA and you're squishy she isn't gonna burst at all with a dps build.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

My issue is that she can build the resistance items and still have better dps and burst than she deserves. If she had to build another attack speed item to get the dps, then she wouldn't have maw or blood thirster. So with her build and kit, she has comparable dps, higher burst, and much better survivability than other adc's.

Its the triple dipping that makes any champion look over the line to me.

Phoenix Kotori Mar 4, 20161 votes

My issue is that she can build the resistance items and still have better dps and burst than she deserves.

She traded her tanking killing with that build since no heavily pen item. So there is a flaw to it.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

this is tru. I was just thinking about it. its probably why udyr was doing so well.

I played a bad game. I wasn't really ready for ranked because Ive really just been playing halo for the past week when I need to take a break, but a friend wanted to jump in so I did.

I still think that maw, steracks, quin, and graves are fucking overpowered. We probably could have won that game tho. I just couldn't regain my composure after a stupid series of plays I made after killing fizz for the first and second time. Its ok tho. I was trying something new-ish.

Woook3rMar 4, 20161 votes

Also, learn to count. She build one as item and an item with an as active.

SachabotMar 4, 20162 votes

Boots.