I don't mind Herald tower-wrecking, but for God's sake why give junglers even more agency?

Zero Skill Tank·Apr 22, 2017·2 votes·300 views

The first half of season 7 was all about junglers having way too much power, to the point where whole other classes like marksman were virtually useless for multiple patches.

It got finally reduced to barely acceptable levels with exp changes, but getting camped by a jungler is still way worse than 1v2 lane, because in 1v2 lane enemies are at least actually punished with gold and exp defficiency.

And after half a year of this jungler meta, Riot decides that it is a good idea to make Herald a) more impactful b) possible to solo kill. Which implies "possible to solo kill by a jungler", because if laners were able to do so than junglers with their bonus life steal, tooth and nail and smite would just take it every game by minute 5.

@Meddler, why?

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RewtApr 22, 20172 votes

It Finally got reduced to barely acceptable levels with the exp changes

I dont think you understand how fucking annoying those XP changes are. If we just farmed our jungle and you just farmed 1 lane to level 18 you would hit level 18 when we were level 12. Thats how bad that change hit junglers. The Xp changes were MORE than enough. Junglers cant really carry unless they are playing some broken shit like rengar, or they get fed off laners who dont understand the concept of warding.

getting camped by a jungler is way worse than a 1v2 lane because in 1v2 lane enemies are at least actually punished with gold and exp defficiency

If you ward and play smart the jungler wastes his time ganking you and eventually will just stop trying. Also every failed gank theoretically costs a jungler about 1/3 of a level worth of XP. And with the aforementioned xp nerfs that really fucking hurts.

More impactful and possible to solo kill....... every game by minute 5

Its not really useful atm so junglers only take it if they are so far ahead that they may as well because what else are they going to do.

Every game by minute 5?????????????? you realise that it doesnt spawn till 10 min in right?. Also by possible to solo kill I dont think they mean that you can just casually walk up and fuck it in a matter of seconds. Its gonna take some time to solo and its gonna hurt like a bitch. Lets not forget THAT BOTH TEAMS HAVE A JUNGLER. If 1 jungler is spending 30 seconds killing that shit and going down to 1/2-1/4 hp the other jungler can just walk up, fuck him and finish the rift herald. Soloing objectives like that is VERY risky.

I never understood this hatered of junglers anyway. So many people complain that its ridiculously OP to have a role that can affect the outcome of the game when its literally designed to be a role that has 0 agency out of itself. It relies on the opponents being autistic and giving them free kills.