Can we just rework Tryndamere?

AquariusGine··83 votes·23,941 views

Cut to the chase and just rework this random crit win lane dude..

Edit: ''Tryndamere is useless at everything but split pushing, he ain't broken or OP ''

.. Some people still not getting the point..

[sg-lulu]

101 Comments

webstar110855 votes

you don't like conqueror on a 35% crit chance at lvl 1 champ?

heroikc12 votes

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you don't like conqueror on a 35% crit chance at lvl 1 champ?

He's virtually useless otherwise and can be beaten by most tanks, he's easy to CC, and he's only good for splitpushing.

PokladnicaZla54 votes

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He's virtually useless otherwise and can be beaten by most tanks, he's easy to CC, and he's only good for splitpushing.

Good thing he can't ulty during CC effects.Oh wait

He could use a WW level rework. Still beginner friendly,but with enough room for skill improvement. Dont misunderstand me, he's not broken,but he lacks any meaningful decision making for his opponents to outplay him.

heroikc2 votes

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Good thing he can't ulty during CC effects.Oh wait

He could use a WW level rework. Still beginner friendly,but with enough room for skill improvement. Dont misunderstand me, he's not broken,but he lacks any meaningful decision making for his opponents to outplay him.

Like CC him during his ult and perma kite him (which is what you should do)? Build armor like bramble vest? Burst him faster than he could react? 9 times out of ten, he's just utter trash and an underfed Teemo can 1v1 him without any abilities. Nothing he can do can truly cheat the system without his flaws showing.

webstar110821 votes

Teemo cannot 1v1 him without abilities HAHA. Tryn has a slow

heroikc1 votes

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Teemo cannot 1v1 him without abilities HAHA. Tryn has a slow

Only if you face away from him....and everyone has a slow. And imagine teemo 1v1 him with abilities.

Jet Sett11 votes

It also lowers AD, so unless this Teemo is really ahead in an AP build he's not 1v1ing Tryn. And Tryndamere can just build Botrk and slow him that way.

webstar11081 votes

Plus once Teemo takes damage his W speed is taken away

webstar11081 votes

Well Teemo shits on Tryn in lane unless the Tryn gets a gank and outplays Teemo. I have level 7 mastery on both Teemo and Tryn. Trust me when i say Tryn shits on Teemo late game.

GripaAviara2 votes

Maybe, but that means you have a teemo which has a lousy waveclear while tryndamere can slowly kamikaze destroy turrets

DooDooIsBack1 votes

LMAO Teemo blinds him for like 2 seconds and even if Trynd gets low he press R and then kill him in 2 autos. Nice.......

heroikc1 votes

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LMAO Teemo blinds him for like 2 seconds and even if Trynd gets low he press R and then kill him in 2 autos. Nice.......

Sure, not like kiting is a thing...or mushrooms.

Auz the Ripper2 votes

up until season 2ish, he actually couldn't ult during CC but it also lasted 7 seconds

TempName548464 votes

trynda has never been "beginner friendly" lmao

Spicy Rice15 votes

I mean, he is, and he isn't.

He is good for noobs vs noobs.

However, once you play against more competent players, you definitely need to understand certain intricacies of his kit

FlameadoDeKoorvo2 votes

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Good thing he can't ulty during CC effects.Oh wait

He could use a WW level rework. Still beginner friendly,but with enough room for skill improvement. Dont misunderstand me, he's not broken,but he lacks any meaningful decision making for his opponents to outplay him.

this champs its pure RNG and that is not how a game should be designed

if you go to farm a cs and he gets a crit with that 30% crit rate, then you are like "ok lets this guy push and try to farm something under tower", ofc he can still punishing you here because he has a low CD dash and top lane is ignore by most of the junglers...

every single early game trade (and I mean with that anything what happen before first BRB) its a casino-thing, if he gets 2 crits in a raw you are done and have to back just cause a crit chance

Cosmic Lux23 votes

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He's virtually useless otherwise and can be beaten by most tanks, he's easy to CC, and he's only good for splitpushing.

you literally listed even more reasons to rework him.

heroikc2 votes

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you literally listed even more reasons to rework him.

Not saying it's a bad idea. Still, what can riot do? Trynd revolves around being an unkillable douche that deals more damage the closer he is to death. They can't make him practical for anything or even less clunky lest they overtune him and make him overbearing. Likewise, he's so lousy that nerfing him is pointless. It feels like Trynd is just a plain lost cause.

Besteal3 votes

Funny enough being an unkillable douche that deals more damage the closer he is to death is pretty much the same fantasy as Olaf. Just that Olaf does it in a way that gives him actual counterplay other than the generic "kite him". And the fact that he's actually killable and not a complete douche because of that.

heroikc1 votes

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Funny enough being an unkillable douche that deals more damage the closer he is to death is pretty much the same fantasy as Olaf. Just that Olaf does it in a way that gives him actual counterplay other than the generic "kite him". And the fact that he's actually killable and not a complete douche because of that.

And Olaf can be played in either jungle and top and has better variety in his item and rune builds compared to Trynd.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

thatsthepoint

heroikc1 votes

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thatsthepoint

Translation; Tryndamere is either useless or overclocked compared to other options, depending on how well he does? Feels like he's one of those champions with two extremes.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Translation: He needs a rework.

heroikc1 votes

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Translation: He needs a rework.

Yeah, pretty much, but how can Riot change him? His gimmick is at least half the reason why he's broken (in the negative end).

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Rework =/= change numbers. Rework = completely change skillset to rework how the champion functions.

heroikc1 votes

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Rework =/= change numbers. Rework = completely change skillset to rework how the champion functions.

I know what a rework is. Who said I was talking numbers? His kit is clunky, his utility is minimal, and his play is cheesy. He's pretty much a lower skill, but more lousy Master Yi with no mana. That's my opinion; the numbers are far from my mind.

SwiftKitten8828 votes

with the current damage creep in this game 5 second of invulnerability is enough to 1v5.. or take any objective in than game other than elder or baron

then he just gets item 3026 on top of that

i kick routers6 votes

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CasterGilgamesh3 votes

lol he doesnt need to buy it every game but the fact he gets the option to buy it is the problem at first he wouldnt care for it since it gave armor and mr and his passive makes armor not really worth it he would rather have more damage to kill people but now...it does give ad

Trias0008 votes

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if a tryndamere is buying item 3026 then he is actual trash

Why is that?

i kick routers5 votes

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webstar11082 votes

item 3026 is very good for a last item. Tiamat>boot>pd is a more teamfighting build. Bork>boots>shiv is for splitting and with GA last item no one can 1v1 you so your team will be 4v3

i kick routers1 votes

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webstar11081 votes

It is just a late game security blanket really. item 3031 item 3087 item 3153 item 3047 item 3139 item 3046 is my optimal build.....i get shiv instead of tiamat

Radiant Wukong1 votes

item 3031 item 3508 item 3006 item 3087 item 3812 item 3072 is my build. But I've been known to use GA at times.

PowerGuy30001 votes

with the current damage creep in this game 5 second of invulnerability is enough to 1v5.. or take any objective in than game other than elder or baron

Im 20/1 as Kai'sa and he can farm me as 5/2 BALACNED PS: his ult just denied my penta which is now an unofficial penta D:<

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

Is it a joke ?? no trynda players do this.

AquariusGine18 votes

I see people still not getting it

[sg-lulu]

TempName548464 votes

trynda can actually team fight decently well these days.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Maybe at very low elo... but even at Gold he would do nothing.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

getting what ?

Nyarlathοtep14 votes

Riot be like : Tryndamere? Wtf is this thing called tryndamere. Its not ryze so we shouldnt pay him attention.

CasterGilgamesh8 votes

if faker doesnt play it then its not important [sg-lulu]

Ifneth7 votes

I loathed him when I was new. I shuddered when I learned he was my main’s husband. I groan when I see people pick him in the jungle—it never seems to work.

Tryndamere needs a full scale VGU.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

I groan at him for other reasons (hes hot) but...yah his kit is something that doesn't belong in this current iteration of the game

no to toxic7 votes

I would rather have them rework Yasuo so I do not need to ban him from my teammates.

6KEMBE4ORBA3 votes

No need of a rework, his ceiling is pretty high and playstyle is unique - they need to stop nerfing him indirectly (like right now) and nerf :

  • op champs
  • ranged champs abusing shiv+RFC proc combo/ranged crit dmg and rageblade
  • nerf the free gold + CDR/perma up shield brainless supports.

All these changes will help both Trynd and the game as whole, seeing as everyone is getting pretty tired with the current shitty state of the game.

I mean, is Trynd really the problem here or is it the inability of Riot to properly balance the game?

Riot needs reworking, not Trynd - you've mistaken.

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