LW buffed up to 45% on PBE

with -10 ad...

You know, after a point you have to take a step back to look and see where the counters to counters should finally stop and someone should have a final say. Tanks having an anti-damage-dealer item that directly targets what is supposed to be their direct counter (champions with bonus AD tend to be AD casters who will be even crappier against tanks, AD Assassins who also don't need to be worse against tanks, and AD Carries, who are supposed to be their counter) is a very, very bad idea. There are healthy alternatives to just chunking enemy armor, such as making it apply on a kit-by-kit basis rather than large-scale armor reduction be on items, and then balance tank items from there, but reducing enemy damage stats in retaliation is.. well, poor design. They are your counter, you should not have a way to directly counter them like that by making them weaker to not only you, but everyone else without it being justifiable - and making it not only affect them, but making it affect everyone else who uses that same particular stat is not justifiable.

There are healthier alternatives, but some of them require large-scale changes because, if we're getting down to the meat and potatoes of the balancing systems of this game, it's a pretty ramshackle system overall. It balances toward damage, which would be fine, if there were appropriate answers to it. Try, instead of outright reducing their damage, to implement counters to their damage potential. In DotA2 they have dodge (which League phased out) and blocking, which reduces damage specifically from auto-attacks. This gives you a direct way to reduce enemy damage without requiring you to nerf enemy damage directly - allowing the champions that would build the items with block to be more naturally durable against damage than those that don't. This means that squishy heroes will be affected more by carry right-clicks than tankier heroes who buy that item. It also directly hits the champions that tanks actually have complaints against while minimally impacting other champions. Though one has to wonder why tanks would want their counter hit so much... :thinking:

You could remove Doran's Shield and add a new item with that blocking passive but give it an actual build path - AND make the block more effective for melee champions, if not outright melee only - this will serve two purposes: 1) It will make the laning phase for melees in top lane easier against ranged champions like Teemo and Quinn by cutting their damage a good deal, and give them an option other than Cloth + pots for some champions. 2) it will transition into an item that bulky melees can build against the enemy ADC to help more even after the laning phase, and its final upgrade can become something like Crimson Guard in DotA2 which has an active that gives the block chance a 100% chance for all allies in an area so they also get the block effect temporarily, at a set damage level so that it impedes enemy ADC damage, but doesn't negate it. This implements an item that can work against ADCs without resorting to hitting their stats, because the boards have already established the cutting enemy stats is pretty poor play unless their kit justifies it, but no kit has to worry about justifying what items do.

{quoted}

Riot: "Tanks seem to be struggling this season, how can we fuck them harder?"

Employee A: "Boy, that calls for a bigger dildo. Don't we, boss? Do we nerf or?"

Employee B: "Oh I know! We can make LW does even more penetration!"

Employee A: "Eh?"

Riot: "Employee B..."

Employee B: "Yes sir!"

Employee A: "Ahahaha I'm sure what was just a joke!" -Whispher to Employee B- "Wtf you have a death wish?"

Riot: "... Enjoy your promotion."

Employee A: "Eh???????????????????????????????????????"

Employee B: "Yes sir!"

Tanks struggling?

Are you bronze 5?

When was the last time you played this game? Season 3?

Riot needs to balance between crit adcs and lethality adcs.lethality adcs dont build lord dominics usualy.

Don't be silly, popcorn takes almost on and a half minutes in the mircowave to start popping. If my ADC doesn't manage to die before the 1:30 mark I am in awe.

/s