Still waiting the ONLY 3 second CC into this game get out of it.

DropFill·Dec 3, 2014·18 votes·2,129 views

Still waiting. Or fix that stupid morgana Q hitbox.

55 Comments

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXDec 3, 201413 votes

Malzahar q has a 3 second silence once maxed.

DropFillDec 3, 20142 votes

Malzahar q has a 3 second silence once maxed.

Malzahar Q is on a immobile champion with no way to escape ( unlike morgana that can snare her chaser or use black shield ) that is hard as fuck to hit. And it doesn't root you in place forever.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXDec 3, 20148 votes

ONLY 3 second CC. Morg is as immobile as malz, malz q is aoe as well. It silences as long as Morg root. You definitely have a point, but her q isn't the only 3 second cc.

DropFillDec 3, 20144 votes

ONLY 3 second CC. Morg is as immobile as malz, malz q is aoe as well. It silences as long as Morg root. You definitely have a point, but her q isn't the only 3 second cc.

The difference is : you can still run silenced. But good luck trying to run snared.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXDec 4, 20148 votes

Bruh, I'm not getting at that. You said only 3 second cc. You were given 2 examples, and you still deny it. Snare and silence are good in their own rights. silence a caster, gg wp maybe next time, root a caster, meh. silence a master yi, it will affect him a little bit. root a yi? gg wp yi have fun with your insta death.

WheatloafDec 4, 20147 votes

Only reason I don't fear Lee Sin as Malzahar: he can't kick me if he's blind AND mute.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXDec 4, 20141 votes

lol

ModWulf HelhammerDec 4, 20141 votes

The difference is: you can still attack (if ranged) or use non-movement abilities when snared But good luck trying to use summoner spells or ALL your abilities when silenced

Malix FarwinDec 4, 20142 votes

Malzahar q has a 3 second silence once maxed.

Malzahar Q is on a immobile champion with no way to escape ( unlike morgana that can snare her chaser or use black shield ) that is hard as fuck to hit. And it doesn't root you in place forever.

if morgana qs me i can still attack her or enemies around me(ive killed ppl while binded). I can also use zhonyas while binded. Malzahar i cant do shit and if i want to i have to build an item that doesn't contribute to my power as much as a better item could just to stop 1 person's ultimate

SexyTaylorSwiftDec 3, 201412 votes

Lol everyone getting mad about people listing other 3 second things, like Ashe arrow. Whether you think Ashe's arrow needs nerfed or not, it is still over 3 seconds lol, making OP's post wrong.

JunkοDec 4, 20141 votes

Didn't know Ashe arrow was spammable. It also only stuns for more than 3 seconds AT MAX RANGE. At point blank it will only stun you for 1 second. Can't say the same about Morgana

SexyTaylorSwiftDec 4, 20141 votes

At what point did I say any of this?? I believe her stun is 3.5 seconds max, thus making it over 3 second CC. You cannot argue that point. Your points are just completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

AudiomancyDec 3, 201412 votes

Sure, knock a second off the bind, but compress the damage of her W into a shorter timeframe and reduce the delay on her ult by a second. I'd rather not have Midgana get killed by metasheep.

TsundayDec 3, 201410 votes

Ashe fires a giant arrow in a straight line. If it hits an enemy champion, it will deal magic damage and stun that champion for 1-3.5 second(s)

Man I didn't know that 3.5 seconds came before 3 seconds?

ParadrakorDec 3, 20149 votes

That's an ultimate with a long cooldown...

TsundayDec 3, 20149 votes

A) they said ONLY in all caps, it's not the only one. B) It gets to be a reasonable CD C) It's a STUN, whereas Morgana is still a ROOT. Somebody like Veigar or Brand could still beat you up in that root. If I ult a Brand though....they're dead. D) not only is it a stun but it's a 3 second AoE slow no matter how far it goes. It's worth the longer CD.

KingsgraveDec 3, 20144 votes

A) they said ONLY in all caps, it's not the only one. B) It gets to be a reasonable CD C) It's a STUN, whereas Morgana is still a ROOT. Somebody like Veigar or Brand could still beat you up in that root. If I ult a Brand though....they're dead. D) not only is it a stun but it's a 3 second AoE slow no matter how far it goes. It's worth the longer CD.

The major difference is that you have to land it from far away for it to stun that long. Morg Q will root for 3 seconds literally anywhere.

Honestly it should be 1-3 seconds at all ranks depending on distance traveled.

TsundayDec 3, 20143 votes

:/ I find it easier to land a cross map Ashe arrow than a Morgana snare.

the major difference is Ashe's stun doesn't stop to stun a minion, Morgana's Q does.

KingsgraveDec 3, 20142 votes

:/ I find it easier to land a cross map Ashe arrow than a Morgana snare.

the major difference is Ashe's stun doesn't stop to stun a minion, Morgana's Q does.

also the hitbox on Ashe's arrow is like 4 times the size of Morgana's Q

DropFillDec 3, 20143 votes

:/ I find it easier to land a cross map Ashe arrow than a Morgana snare.

the major difference is Ashe's stun doesn't stop to stun a minion, Morgana's Q does.

also the hitbox on Ashe's arrow is like 4 times the size of Morgana's Q

No it is not.

Tsukuy0m1Dec 3, 20148 votes

u guys are funny. u are really comparing ashe ult to morgana q. this is why i dont like discussing things on boards.

u guys would rather nerf ashe to save morgana lmao.

low elos.

Rock RockburghDec 4, 20145 votes

Nobody's saying that Ashe should be nerfed, just that Morgana really isn't THAT big a deal since it's just a root.

DropFillDec 4, 20142 votes

Nobody's saying that Ashe should be nerfed, just that Morgana really isn't THAT big a deal since it's just a root.

"just a root" That makes a melee champ useless and a ranged champion, if he gets snared, most of the times he is fucked

The JubbinatorDec 4, 20145 votes

A root that has a very large hitbox, a 7 second cooldown with 40% cdr, is actually a lot harder to dodge than a Thresh hook, and stops a champion from moving anywhere for three seconds. That is insane.

Tsukuy0m1Dec 3, 20147 votes

ashe arrow is fine because its hard to hit it for maximum CC. plus its an ultimate on a fairly underpowered champion. where as morganas is on a short cooldown and easy to hit especailly in dragon/baron fights without minions.

oraDec 4, 20142 votes

Random trivia, her arrow is actually not at all fine. In fact, it's so powerful that it warps her entire kit's power budget to compensate, which is why she is otherwise such a "fairly underpowered" champion. Riot themselves have admitted this.

JunkοDec 4, 20142 votes

Explains why Jinx has AoE global execute and still deals tons of dmg with her kit while being really mobile.

Tentacle LoveDec 3, 20144 votes

If it's really that broken, then play Morgana and figure out her weaknesses.

JunkοDec 4, 20141 votes

You mean nothing because you can just go mid, buy WotA and Spirit Visage and be an unkillable monster?

Tsukuy0m1Dec 3, 20143 votes

just make it 2 seconds. even morg mains wont be mad at that change.

Skia AsteriDec 3, 20146 votes

just make it 2 seconds. even morg mains wont be mad at that change.

No. She actually needs three seconds for her combo. Until that is changed the duration cannot be reduced.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXDec 3, 20145 votes

Then it would be lux q that doesn't pierce.

oraDec 4, 20141 votes

Morg main chiming in! Would be extremely mad. With the way morgana's kit works, you need those 3 seconds to get off your whole damage combo. As long as her tormented soil is so strong only while you're in it, she will need that duration to remain even remotely viable as a mid. They have to fix her whole kit before she can get a nerf to that (admittedly ridiculous, but still necessary) q duration.

AudiomancyDec 4, 20143 votes

If we're talking long-ass CC, Nasus and Zilean would like a word.

JunkοDec 4, 20141 votes

They don't stop you in place for 3 seconds. But yeah 5 sec is some long ass cc.

Poorly DressedDec 3, 20142 votes

Ya it's so retarded it's not even funny, she is a horrible one trick pony

Meep ManDec 3, 20144 votes

Yeah I mean its not like her amazingly good at initiating ultimate is any good. Oh and her joke of a spell shield, what even is that? Immunity to crowd control and a magic damage shield? What even is that!? Dont even get me started on her pool of death!

BalareonDec 4, 20141 votes

Pfffft all useless, she NEVER uses anything but her q, at least thats what good morgs do... Nerf the hitbox and I'd say it's perfect.

Kowe The EwokDec 4, 20141 votes

The duration is much to long considering hitbox and projectile speed.

Compare it to Zyra E which starts with 0.75s duration, has half of the hitbox and travels MUCH slower.

Lord DusteonDec 4, 20143 votes

The duration is much to long considering hitbox and projectile speed.

Compare it to Zyra E which starts with 0.75s duration, has half of the hitbox and travels MUCH slower.

Compare it to Zyra E which is AoE, procs her slowing plants, and doesn't stop at minions/monsters.

Kowe The EwokDec 4, 20141 votes

There slow plants are a completely other spell. If you're counting it you'ld have to count Morgana's W (It's excute damage bonus against low HP) and her lifesteal as well.

Omega360Dec 4, 20141 votes

There slow plants are a completely other spell. If you're counting it you'ld have to count Morgana's W (It's excute damage bonus against low HP) and her spellvamp as well.

FTFY

If you are going to be all nitpicky to prove your point, at least do it right.

And also, her w only really does damage if she has either ap or is level 18 vs someone without MR.

oraDec 4, 20144 votes

AND is 100% aoe, AND can leave behind on-hit-proccing slow plants, AND combos with her ult far easier (don't need the extra second to get in the middle of them to ult like you do morgana AND it procs its hard cc sooner). Not at all a good comparison imo.