I think it's really dumb that Tahm can cast Q and W concurrently; max passive needs to reset

Atlªs·Aug 13, 2018·1 votes·832 views

With Tahm being buffed next patch (for whatever reason) I thought I'd bring up the fact that he can Q and W at max passive to apply a total of 4.5 sec CC chain. I just played a game where any time I wanted to trade with Tahm he would apply 3 stacks, Q then W. I always found this sort of interaction unfair since landing point blank Q isn't all that hard which then guarantees W. My solution is after casting Q the passive stack should reset to the first rank which would force him to apply 2 autos before his W.

6 Comments

Meep ManAug 13, 20182 votes

Actually on the PBE it’s a 3.5 second CC chain. You can only eat someone for a max of 2 seconds if they are an enemy champion on the PBE.

The real issue here is you’re letting Tahm apply those first three stacks so easily.

LittleOakAug 13, 20181 votes

Yeah, as a Tahm player, you should never be close enough to me, long enough to where I can auto you to max stacks, Q you and eat you. That's 3 autos, plus Q plus W. Levels 2-7 that's like 5 seconds of being in melee with Tahm that he needs to be able to get full stacks on you and then stun and eat you. If he is getting stacks faster, that's because he spit W at you or Q'd early, which you should realize is his reliable stun on you, which is when you should then go in and fight him. You don't run around scared of a stun incoming when the stun ability is on a 10-20 second CD. Poke him out, kite out his autos, take fights after he throws W or Q at you. Tahm's unpowered at the moment, if you're dying to one that isn't something absolutely ridiculous like ROA, Nashor's Tooth build, you're playing the match up incorrectly.

As an edited, extension to this comment, other than Thresh who disarms himself with his Q hook, there isn't a single champion in the game that I can think of that punishes the player that severely, for hitting a skill shot. Tahm's biggest counter is he needs to get in close to put stacks on his enemy. The change you have suggested would make him the worst champion in the game, flat out by a country mile. He would be the Magikarp of League of Legends and as it is now, with his current strength, he isn't that far off anyways.

AtlªsAug 13, 20181 votes

I was playing Fiora vs Tahm so if your only suggestion is avoid him applying his passive I really don’t know what you want me to do.

LittleOakAug 13, 20181 votes

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I was playing Fiora vs Tahm so if your only suggestion is avoid him applying his passive I really don’t know what you want me to do.

I never said avoid him applying his passive, that's conceivably impossible where 3/3 offensive interactions he has proc his passive. If you read exactly what I wrote, I said "you should never be close enough to [Tahm] long enough to where [he] can auto you to max stacks, [without using his Q or W]." If you are, you are taking a VERY bad trade. His Q cooldown is 12 seconds early and his W is 16. If you play around those two abilities, you should have no problem facing him as a Fiora. Fiora should stomp Tahm in all circumstances the way he is now. It's just understanding his trading pattern and waiting for him to use an ability or miss something on you. Then you punish. Simple math.