being held hostage in game is probably the WORST feeling

Atlªs··28 votes·11,335 views
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no one on my team listened, they fed my laner and LeBlanc AND held me hostage in game. I PLAYED A 50 MINUTE GAME THAT I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO LOSE. What can I do against this? Nothing. But the second I say that they're playing terribly and that they're bad, BANNED.

People keep saying that I probably didn't contribute in team fights https://imgur.com/a/wuexpkR

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iamlimeyman16 votes

It's funny because you can't even complain about it because that would be considered "ruining their game".

You can't even state that a "player is inting" because that would be considered "ruining the inters game".

Bijeesny7 votes

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It's funny because you can't even complain about it because that would be considered "ruining their game".

You can't even state that a "player is inting" because that would be considered "ruining the inters game".

And if he got banned for it and came here to complain, he would be framed as a toxic PoS... But wouldn't say jack shit for his teammates... I'm just wondering when did the playerbase embraced this 'play4fun in ranked' mentality.

Pandemic Punch5 votes

This is incredibly accurate.

Keiros191 votes

I'm just wondering when did the playerbase embraced this 'play4fun in ranked' mentality.

Since the time tencent puchased RIto and made it casual friendly. The game went downhil since then.

Bijeesny1 votes

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Since the time tencent puchased RIto and made it casual friendly. The game went downhil since then.

I think they always had a share in this game, since earlier seasons, cant check it atm

Imo the game became obviously casual friendly in this season.

Pandemic Punch2 votes

Yepppp! I had a few games in a row where 4 people on the enemy team took ignite. It is the dumbest summoner spell in the game. Free true damage shouldn't be a summoner spell. Especially as over tuned as it is right now

HungryAngry2SPP6 votes

Shouldn't it be in Player Behavior??

But the second I say that they're playing terribly and that they're bad, BANNED.

No shit sherlock, you break a rule. Doesn't matter what happened in that game, if you had a bad day or something else, you re still breaking the rules (aka no exceptions)

Atlªs6 votes

No shit sherlock, you break a rule. Doesn't matter what happened in that game, if you had a bad day or something else, you re still breaking the rules (aka no exceptions)

This sort of mentality enables the "disco-nunu" type of behavior. You are only enabling people to continue feeding and playing poorly. Great work.

daviidnavidad3 votes

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This sort of mentality enables the "disco-nunu" type of behavior. You are only enabling people to continue feeding and playing poorly. Great work.

Um, you don't seem to understand that some people feed on accident. People will always feed, LL stylish feeds from time to time, rank 1 TF bklade too

Atlªs4 votes

some people feed on accident

You don't seem to understand the concept of feeding. There is dying a couple times due to ganks/pressure/whatever and then there is incessantly fighting the enemy champion/team that is blatantly ahead.

HungryAngry2SPP4 votes

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This sort of mentality enables the "disco-nunu" type of behavior. You are only enabling people to continue feeding and playing poorly. Great work.

There's a difference between calling someone noob/trash, and just telling them their mistakes

Atlªs3 votes

For instance, do I have to tell my Jhin not to die 17 times in a game?

HungryAngry2SPP6 votes

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For instance

do I have to tell my Jhin not to die 17 times in a game?

Uhm...no?

should I tell my Jhin not to die 17 times in a game?

No, becouse it's not nice, and that phrase provides to nothing constructive

can I tell my Jhin not to die 17 times in a game?

Actually yeah, even if it's rude, it's not detected by the (shitty) ban system. Sum passive-agressive (just like boards like to call it) talk

P.S. You can shit talk, even not using bad words, but will this change how your team plays? No (well, maybe 1% of times it will work)

You can give your team clear instructions on what to do, who to focus etc etc, but will this change something? Probably, even though if depends on how many living braincells your teammates have

Shukr4n5 votes

u dont need to explain something that is clear to everyone's eyes.

u broke rules. got punished.

for what? assume no ban. do they instantly become pros? no

deal with it. mute, report and play relaxed.

Atlªs13 votes

No, you don't seem to quite understand. I am trying to win, that is the point of the game. You don't fight dragon just to have fun, you fight dragon to win. You don't fight Baron to have fun, you fight to win. You don't fight your enemy laner to have fun, you fight them to win.

You say, 'mute, report and play relaxed'. I cannot mute their gameplay. I cannot mute their feeding, I cannot mute their chasing and dying. Even if I do deal with their incessant dying, I cannot even LEAVE THE GAME. I cannot exit the game without being 4 man reported for AFKing then obtaining buster queues. But I have to deal with their gameplay? That's absolutely pathetic.

Shukr4n1 votes

u can mute their reaction to your pings/words/suggestions

but looking at downvotes, i can live witghout explaining more.

gl

Atlªs7 votes

They can also mute my words. If they don't like being criticized, they can mute me. But I have to do just "deal" with their gameplay? No, I would honestly rather play the game by myself 1v5 than have 4 feeders. If leaving was a safe option, I would do that too.

Kha Kay1 votes

Can u show us the damage chart because u could possibly have the best kda on ur team but deal the least damage in the game

Flemman3 votes

imo, if they are as bad as you say, you just need to "go in" with them when they do stupid stuff if you really want to end the game and have no hope of winning it anymore.

You aren't really trap in those kind of game

Paíntchip2 votes

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imo, if they are as bad as you say, you just need to "go in" with them when they do stupid stuff if you really want to end the game and have no hope of winning it anymore.

You aren't really trap in those kind of game

Except often times the enemy team won’t finish cuz they are padding for easy S grades. Or they are boosting their egos by beating on a team.

mrmeddyman1 votes

Naw dawg I only play for fun which is why I am courteous enough to never touch ranked. (not clear if this is ranked enough)

You can tryhard if you want that is your prerogative. I respect that you don't care about having fun and only want to win. However I don't feel the need to conform to your playstyle.

"But I have to deal with their gameplay?"

Yes you do. You don't get to decide someone elses' investment in a video game. I don't get in normal games and throw intentionally but I don't min max either. I play my lane, listen to music, kick back and chill. Win or lose doesn't matter to me I'm trying to de-stress and LoL laning phase is very relaxing to me.

At least it has been lately because as of late I have been extremly trigger happy when enabling League single-player mode. I.E. all muting the second someone bitches in chat.

FF 15 PLOX MUTE

OMG MID SO BAD MUTE

JUNGLER USELESS MUTE

/all ??? MUTE

It doesn't even have to be directed at me. My patience is so low that even engaging with any form of negativity in my games is a waste of energy. I just don't care.

The kicker is that for me to deal with you being in my game I press one button and it's like you don't exist anymore. Unfortunately if you ever encounter me in your game yes you do have to deal with my gameplay. Play a single player game, stick to ranked or get more important stuff to do in your day-to day life so that a video game isn't what you are invested so heavily in.

Sincerely,

Casual tilt-free LoL player

MYSTlCFLOW1 votes

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Naw dawg I only play for fun which is why I am courteous enough to never touch ranked. (not clear if this is ranked enough)

aren't you denying yourself end of season rewards for being silver/gold?

mrmeddyman1 votes

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aren't you denying yourself end of season rewards for being silver/gold?

eh don't really care. What do you get? Just a skin right?

Atlªs3 votes

The kicker is that for me to deal with you being in my game I press one button and it's like you don't exist anymore. Unfortunately if you ever encounter me in your game yes you do have to deal with my gameplay.

If I ever face you in game, I will make your life miserable. The point of playing any game, any competition, any sport is to succeed/win. It doesn't matter if it is fun. If you are so insistent on playing the game how you want (carefree, kicking back and chilling) then why don't you play bots? Ah, you see now. The reason why you don't play bots is because it is an easy win. You want the challenge, why? Because you want to succeed/win.

mrmeddyman2 votes

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If I ever face you in game, I will make your life miserable.

No you're not listening. That's impossible. The overall enjoyment of my life can't be decided by a League game because I don't place high priority on winning. Even if you kill me 15 times in lane my emotional state will not be changed.

Because the game will eventually end and it wouldn't have mattered. I just queue for the next.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

Yeah no shit people want to win, in general winning is fun. But i'd rather fuck around and lose than have a miserable victory. "I will make your life miserable because you want to have fun", ma dude chill the fuck out. There's a difference between playing bots and drooling on yourself to win and actually playing pvp for fun. You never stated wether this was ranked or not in your OP.

The point of playing any game, any competition, any sport is to succeed/win.

-I've played plenty of games that have no Win or Lose at all. for example we play Clone Hero (open source guitar hero) at my friends place alot. I play on medium cuz i just wanna sit back get stoned and enjoy the songs we're playing. My friend keeps telling me to up the difficulty to "get better" but i genuinly don't care enough about getting better at GH. When i'm playing skyrim/fallout i'm not sitting there like "i gotta min max my gear, exploit this shit to get even better gear and do x and x quest to get this shit", no i'm sitting back doing w/e i like. One of my current characters had barely seen combat until level 15. I used to play tony hawk as a kid and just skated around the area's not caring, as a matter of fact the few times i go skating with my friend IRL i just cruise around chilling and not even doing any tricks most of the (i can't do any anymore).

-Plenty of people go jogging, biking or swimming for fun (even alone) and have no need for it's competitive side.

-..... ur not serious about the competition part are you? cuz yeah, congrats when you enter a competition you'd like to win yeah. That's why it's called a fucking competition.

but i wanna come back to this part:

If I ever face you in game, I will make your life miserable

bozo you got issues.

Celiorap3 votes

How do I mute my team from inting

daviidnavidad2 votes

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How do I mute my team from inting

You don't, you accept a loss and remember that it's just a game and enjoy yourself. If you are so reliant on winning to have fun go play against bots or something. Sometimes you lose, sometimes it's not your fault. Move on.

Atlªs4 votes

The point of any game, any competition, any activity is to succeed.

If you are so reliant on winning to have fun go play against bots or something

This comment made me laugh. Imagine if I said, "if you're so reliant on having fun and not winning, go play against bots or something".

Shukr4n2 votes

Defeat is part of any competitions. Dealing with it and improve is part of competition.

When u played poorly with ryze i bet u have all the excuses of the world.

As much as it worth, being gold3 is not top of the ladder. So much to learn, so much to improve.

Aside the fact that

  • team games with random is not "competition"

  • trolls and inters have priviledges.

Comsider that i upvoted your thread because i share your initial opinion.

LegitBusinessman5 votes

Fed Akali fed LB and your Jhin has tabis what the fuck. Wheres his maw? Why the LDR? The jax is full damage and trox has no armor aside from tabis.

Holy crap I just got ligma from looking at his itemization.

Glory974 votes

The funny thing about this complaint is: The game lasted 50 minutes. Once everyone gets fullbuild and lvl 18 no team has a real advantage, so any feed or int doesn't matter anymore. And your team also had champions that scale quite well into lategame and the enemy team had no adc. Keeping this in mind the was a very realistic chance of your team winning the game. Just one good fight or getting a catch is all you needed.

You were NOT HELD HOSTAGE in the game. You could have won this game. And with your mentally fragile mindset that doesn't allow you to enjoy a game where you don't stomp your enemy YOU RUINED THE GAME FOR YOUR 4 TEAMMATES.

And now you still complain afterwards? It's sad to see this post getting uupvoted.

Atlªs1 votes

Once everyone gets fullbuild and lvl 18 no team has a real advantage, so any feed or int doesn't matter anymore

Full build? Like Jhin building Ninja Tabi and LDR versus a team that built no armor? Jhin didn't build Maw, Jhin didn't build GA, Jhin didn't get Death's Dance/Phantom Dancer. Feeding/Inting doesn't matter late game, yes, but dying late game makes the game a 4v5 for 50 seconds and in my case it was a 2v5 for 50 seconds several instances.

Just one good fight or getting a catch is all you needed.

Ah, this is the comment I was looking for. "Just one fight" mentality is what makes people lose the game so hard. Just one fix, just one creep, just one more damage instead of thinking strategically/logically and playing efficiently. Several people have commented that I should have joined team fights and how I could have won the game like that. It's appalling that I, by myself, have to win the game for 4 other people instead of everyone working as a team.

But here is damage dealt graph: https://gyazo.com/395355b36b8c0afda635cc8b1f23927b

Glory971 votes

If the enemy can't close out the game with a significant gold lead against a team that is as terrible as you described it, they are also not good. And I don't care about your damage dealt either, because doing most damage on cassiopeia is nothing special.

If your team runs arround dying in the jungle you could shotcall your team and direct them to contest objectives (ofc only if you are not muted by everyone already, which is probably a major challenge for you).

I can't understand what you want to tell me with your mentality paragraph, because to be honest: The way you constructed this argument is hilariously stupid. You claim that this mentality is what makes people loose games, without any reasoning or evidence. Also I don't understand your claim that the thought "just one fight can win the game" correlates with an inability to think strategically/logically or to play efficiently.

If you really think that you have to win a league of legends match by yourself and teamwork with other people is irrellevant, I would recommend you to quite league of legends and play single-player games instead.

SMOKE THIS2 votes

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Atlªs1 votes

Yeah, I could shut down Akali by myself with R up. LeBlanc never wanted to fight. I could 1v1 Jax as well.

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

if that's the case. your game was winnable.

Bijeesny2 votes

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if that's the case. your game was winnable.

Even if he could win, was it really worth all the frustration and time wasted in that game?

Jerry SeinfeId3 votes

if i have to go through 50 minutes of suffering, i better get that "victory" on my screen.

Glory971 votes

But there are also some people who can only enjoy the game if they absolutly stomp the enemy team...

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

then they shouldn't be playing lategame champs.

Bijeesny1 votes

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if i have to go through 50 minutes of suffering, i better get that "victory" on my screen.

I would aswell, but how frustrating that match would be, honestly, I would just want to get out of that game, regardless of the outcome.

Flameglow2 votes

And the next question would be: How dare somebody claim this game was not winnable if you already manage to get to 50 minutes with a teamcomp that is better in lategame. Only Mundo and taric were missing one item to full-buid. One catch, one baron and the game would be turned arround.

Nami Want Salami2 votes

"We have late game"

Elkington VI1 votes

Your team comp was superior to theirs at least. Theoretically, you could have won it if people played their champs correctly, particularly Alistar and Taric, as they both have the capacity to shut down at least half the enemy team by themselves, let alone together. The other team just had more cheese and snowball potential, with Jax being their only late game scaling dps.

You guys just got outplayed and most of your team was too salty to surrender to fed LB/Akali, both of them being very annoying when ahead. If everyone kept their cool you could have easily come back.

Atlªs1 votes

Look, like I stated in the original post my team wouldn't listen or play safe. I can't do anything to stop that.

AlienPrimate1 votes

The fact that this game was 50 minutes means that you could have won. Everyone except Taric and Mundo was full build meaning that scores are mostly irrelevant.

Atlªs1 votes

Mundo, Alistar, and Jhin were all irrelevant. The enemy LeBlanc could one shot the Jhin (and she did, several times) and no one had to worry about Mundo or Alistar. I was their only threat and Taric could ult/stun. Playing the game 2v5 is extremely overwhelming. It's appaling that you say "game was winnable" when we were a man down every instance they (my team) wanted to fight.

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