Make Zoe's W only use abilities she doesn't actually choose to have.

Ok sure but why··11 votes·3,526 views

Remember when you guys became so adamantly zealous in making "UNIQUE Passives" out of everything? You did it because when Talon bought 6 Black Cleavers, he got a shit-ton of health, damage, CDR and armour pen. So then you fixed it! Isn't the abundance of one thing a part of what makes Zoe so obnoxious?

Just think about the change I'm proposing: Did she buy a item 3157 item 2419? Now she won't be able to go invincible for a whole 7.5 seconds!

Did she take Ignite? Now she can't ignite you, ignite you again, pick up your ignite, and ignite you a third time!

Did she take Flash? Now she can't Flash, Flash, Flash, Flash, Flash, Flash and Flash!!

If this is too massive of a nerf, then you could always give her a compensation buff by increasing the drop rate of Spell Shards from minions by like,,,..... 12.5% per Shards she's not allowed to actually have? Then if she took a full build of 6 Active Items (+ her two summoner spells), then it would just be doubled. Honestly, I could live with that, so long as she was only getting one Flash.

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Rodeffs4 votes

I think that's a good idea

HonestJohnTheCon2 votes

That sounds like a pretty good idea.

I had the thought that she can only get summoner spell/item active drops from minions if any one of the enemy champions have them.

For example, if none of the enemies on the enemy team have Cleanse, she can't pick up Cleanse.

This gates her from using powerful later-game item actives like Redemption and Gunblade at level 3, and also allows the enemy to counterplay around her with summoner spells. If you're playing a midlane champion with no super-important CC, like Azir, you could take Cleanse, countering her and removing Ignite from her item pool, severely reducing her damage output while replacing it with something effectively useless in lane. This would reinforce her role as a spell "thief", rather than just picking up random stuff.

And if that's too drastic, you can restrict that to summoners only, while item actives remain as they are on live.

Yours is probably more balanced, though.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Better than just completely removing something from her item pool at least.

Hong Kong Annie1 votes

I don't know, it would be really bad if she couldn't get the summoners of her opponents. I think her drops from minions should be limited, I hate her getting a gunblade and ignite lvl 3 and winning lane for free.

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