So is it ok for Jhin to only have flat armour pen and still kill me at 40% HP when.....

Lady Hammerlock··2 votes·442 views

he has his fourth shot,only 2 flat pen items being item 3147 item 3142 (and possibly additional ones from runes and masteries),and still kill me when i have item 3143 item 3026 ,oh and still be allowed to build 3 crit items without being to horrifically punished for it?

seems to me 10% of his crit isn't much

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Astôlfo1 votes

His fourth shot is a guaranteed crit with percent missing health scaling. It's 25% missing health at its highest level. Which would be 15% of your max health if you had 40% health. His AD gains scalings off attack speed and critical chance as well, and he had quite a lot of AD therefor as a result with all his items. A normal auto from him would've done probably 600-800 or so by that point.

So he did (600~800ish + 15% max health)*1.5 (the crit modifier for Jhin).

He's getting nerfed in 6.17, don't worry:

Liquid Sloth1 votes

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His fourth shot is a guaranteed crit with percent missing health scaling. It's 25% missing health at its highest level. Which would be 15% of your max health if you had 40% health. His AD gains scalings off attack speed and critical chance as well, and he had quite a lot of AD therefor as a result with all his items. A normal auto from him would've done probably 600-800 or so by that point.

So he did (600~800ish + 15% max health)*1.5 (the crit modifier for Jhin).

He's getting nerfed in 6.17, don't worry:

6.17 Nerf will be a nerf in his speed mainily. Here is everything happening...

Jhin Whisper (Passive) Base Movement speed from crits reduced to 3% from 10% Attack speed ratio increased to 6% movement speed per 10% attack speed from 4% MS per 10% AS.

Deadly Flourish (W) AD ratio lowered to 50% from 70% Damage to minions and monsters increased to 75% from 65%

Curtain Call (R) [tool tip no longer mentions "If canceled early, Curtain Call's cooldown is refunded by 10% for each unused shot."

Astôlfo1 votes

That's fine. His mobility from his speed gave too much safety since he could just shoot people and then back off. This will either force him to play riskier or safer, which I think is okay. And his W as a root tool didn't need a 70% AD on it in the first place, because it could kill low health targets by itself. So yeah, good change there too.

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

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6.17 Nerf will be a nerf in his speed mainily. Here is everything happening...

Jhin Whisper (Passive) Base Movement speed from crits reduced to 3% from 10% Attack speed ratio increased to 6% movement speed per 10% attack speed from 4% MS per 10% AS.

Deadly Flourish (W) AD ratio lowered to 50% from 70% Damage to minions and monsters increased to 75% from 65%

Curtain Call (R) [tool tip no longer mentions "If canceled early, Curtain Call's cooldown is refunded by 10% for each unused shot."

Im really happy with the ultimate nerf,that seems like it will sting

Warpes1 votes

Aren't both him and youmuus/duskblade already being nerfed?

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