"Bot lane is determined by auto filled"

BALDG1VEN BOOMER·Sep 20, 2017·63 votes·3,328 views

Any role is determined by auto filled, now stop.

51 Comments

BańgSep 20, 201713 votes

except bot lane determines who gets the drag and the better bot lane insanely impacts the game.

every single GOOD player knows that bot lane is the current meta right now.

you snowball bot and u win the game.

so please try to not be so ignorant the next time u talk about autofill.

any autofilled top/jungle can play some basic point and click tank to peel for the adc and get knights vow for them.

catchup exp in the jungle makes it so monkeys will be on the same level as an LCS jungler who has been doing everything

try to comment on my thread next time instead of making your own thread thinking you're slick.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 201717 votes

You're just as useless if you're auto filled into any other role and fall behind.

BańgSep 20, 20173 votes

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You're just as useless if you're auto filled into any other role and fall behind.

There's a reason why u can only climb with support.

Please do not falsify information and spread it onto other people.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 20179 votes

Sounds like a good reason as to why auto filled determines the game.

I'd like to know which part of that is false.

EedatSep 20, 20174 votes

I dunno man I've mained Jungle/Top and seem to do ok

Wasabi KittySep 20, 20175 votes

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There's a reason why u can only climb with support.

Please do not falsify information and spread it onto other people.

You can climb with any role. If you can't climb it's not because you aren't playing as the magical role, it's because you're too bad.

MiraweaveSep 20, 20176 votes

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You're just as useless if you're auto filled into any other role and fall behind.

Having a bad ADC is significantly worse than having a bad top or mid.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 20177 votes

*autofilled

Imperial JapanSep 20, 20173 votes

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Having a bad ADC is significantly worse than having a bad top or mid.

True

Yxgl222HaXSep 20, 20173 votes

ya if you give up 3 kills to a fiora cho or nasus early on youre boned. Same with any assasian or burst mage. Feeding is possible in any lane not just bot. Espically if they look up your stats pregame and see youre not strong in your role/champ and camp the crap out of you.

Magi MayvinSep 20, 20172 votes

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except bot lane determines who gets the drag and the better bot lane insanely impacts the game.

every single GOOD player knows that bot lane is the current meta right now.

you snowball bot and u win the game.

so please try to not be so ignorant the next time u talk about autofill.

any autofilled top/jungle can play some basic point and click tank to peel for the adc and get knights vow for them.

catchup exp in the jungle makes it so monkeys will be on the same level as an LCS jungler who has been doing everything

try to comment on my thread next time instead of making your own thread thinking you're slick.

Implying that adcs and supports aren't braindead.

DisembarkSep 20, 20171 votes

I'm a support/ADC main and I'll admit it's brain dead as fuck.

Like you need to understand lane matchups/trading/positioning, but every role has that.

As ADC you're shackled to your team and ad support you're shackled to your ADC.

ExecutionerSep 21, 20171 votes

You just literally contradicted yourself.

Saying its brain dead, then you come saying you need to understand matchsups/trading/positioning. Then you say every role has that? Then does that mean every role is brain dead?

No role is brain dead. If you do not have the knowledge or the understanding for that lane you're going to fall flat on your face.

DisembarkSep 20, 20172 votes

Top lane is by FAR the most punishing role in the game. If you don't understand matchups you can get fucked so easily. Poked under tower, 40+ cs down at 10, dove repeatedly, 3 levels under and no hope in sight. Or even worse they freeze the wave endlessly.

Now you're a "tank" Maokai which is in fact squishier than Teemo because you're 4 levels and 1 item down.

Any idiot can play Trist/Ezreal or Janna/Soraka bot lane.

Daddy GangplankSep 21, 20171 votes

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except bot lane determines who gets the drag and the better bot lane insanely impacts the game.

every single GOOD player knows that bot lane is the current meta right now.

you snowball bot and u win the game.

so please try to not be so ignorant the next time u talk about autofill.

any autofilled top/jungle can play some basic point and click tank to peel for the adc and get knights vow for them.

catchup exp in the jungle makes it so monkeys will be on the same level as an LCS jungler who has been doing everything

try to comment on my thread next time instead of making your own thread thinking you're slick.

Why the downvotes, he's not wrong sadly

Moj0 JojoSep 20, 20178 votes

I agree man autofill is the worst idea these stoners ever had. It makes ranked so much more toxic. And they stand up to that shit can you believe that?

DradenSep 20, 20175 votes

That's the point, I play almost everything, but mainly top. If I fall behind I can be heavily punished, but eventually it won't matter, I will get cs, get money and do my job of peeling/engaging.

If my adc falls behind, the game is over before they can relatively catch up. Them being behind means we can't fight for 40 mins, and by then it's usually over.

YennSep 21, 20175 votes

You completely fucked up the common complaint, which is that the game is decided by which bottom lane is auto-filled.

Nobody argues that other lanes aren't decided by auto-fill, but they don't fuck over the game. A 12-0-3 Kog'maw turreting your entire team with a Lulu sitting on him at 20 minutes is generally unrecoverable.

LXIISep 20, 20174 votes

I mean.. The root problem is still the same then? If autofill = autolosethatlane then it's an issue.

Also worth noting that if autofill determines every role then the phrase "bot is determined by auto fill" is still true. More in fact since there are 2 people in the lane.

RaiyzaSep 20, 20174 votes

Agreed, but it needs to be said until Riot takes it out of ranked.

BańgSep 20, 20173 votes

The fact that u need to explain this to someone that hit plat proves the game does not teach Its players anything.

People are still so ignorant after how many years of playing .

Any moron above level 25 can tell this is the bot meta after playing 5 games

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 201723 votes

You can be silver or master and realize that autofilled determines your game in any role, rather than specifically bot lane.

Also rank isn't equivalent to game knowledge

BańgSep 20, 20172 votes

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You can be silver and realize that autofilled determines your game in any role rather than specifically bot lane.

Let me explain it again. Bot lane has More impact on the game than any other role at the moment . Every single challenger player has acknowledged this. Mbasically when an adc and support are laning against a top/mid main in bot they will most likely win in a 2v2 situation as they have more knowledge of the role and more coordination than the people who have never played that role or champion.

So basically what this means is when u get an autofilled bot they will not only lose lane but will then not know how to position and kite .

Now what this means is the enemy team has a higher chance of securing dragon and first blood tower as well as their adc being very strong so they can peel for him/her very easily. With tanks and supports being broken t means that adc main is going to have a very easy time doing his/her job

Try reading this one slowly so the information actually goes through this time

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 201710 votes

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Let me explain it again. Bot lane has More impact on the game than any other role at the moment . Every single challenger player has acknowledged this.

Maybe right now, yes. But auto filled determines more.

But if top falls behind, enemy can split push to win or become a team fighting monster.

Jungle, exp can be compensated but gold can't, their resources are gone they'll find behind then have weaker ganks then they'll get invaded

Mid, if you fall behind you most odds have no AP threat, no wave clear and opening up the map becomes harder due to most mid having effective wave clear patterns and with no mid turret enemies can easily contest objectives as they have mid priority.

Mbasically when an adc and support are laning against a top/mid main in bot they will most likely win in a 2v2 situation as they have more knowledge of the role and more coordination than the people who have never played that role or champion.

Just like any other auto filled person.

So basically what this means is when u get an autofilled bot they will not only lose lane but will then not know how to position and kite .

Mechanics are irrelevant when auto filled, unless you practice them them.

Now what this means is the enemy team has a higher chance of securing dragon and first blood tower as well as their adc being very strong so they can peel for him/her very easily. With tanks and supports being broken t means that adc main is going to have a very easy time doing his/her job

Got a lead and snowballed, this damage is even worse with autofilled players who don't know how to play from behind.

Try reading this one slowly so the information actually goes through this time

Information went through, try not to act like a bigot and be open to different opinions.

BańgSep 20, 20171 votes

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Maybe right now, yes. But auto filled determines more.

But if top falls behind, enemy can split push to win or become a team fighting monster.

Jungle, exp can be compensated but gold can't, their resources are gone they'll find behind then have weaker ganks then they'll get invaded

Mid, if you fall behind you most odds have no AP threat, no wave clear and opening up the map becomes harder due to most mid having effective wave clear patterns and with no mid turret enemies can easily contest objectives as they have mid priority.

Just like any other auto filled person.

Mechanics are irrelevant when auto filled, unless you practice them them.

Got a lead and snowballed, this damage is even worse with autofilled players who don't know how to play from behind.

Information went through, try not to act like a bigot and be open to different opinions.

I honest to god can't understand anymore. The fact that you're so willing to deny this FACT makes me hate this game even more.

You can't be reasoned with.

Autofill affects bot more hence it affects the game more when bot is autofilled

This is my last statement . Please continue to deny this however .

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 20178 votes

Any meta effects the game, mid lane has been a determining factor before same with top and jungle, and when you have experienced players versus those who aren't experience of course it'll be a case where they lose.

It can be your last statement because you have nothing else to prove, but that's fine.

Have a nice day sir.

Also if you hate the game you can always quit? Lol

BańgSep 20, 20171 votes

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Any meta effects the game, mid lane has been a determining factor before same with top and jungle, and when you have experienced players versus those who aren't experience of course it'll be a case where they lose.

It can be your last statement because you have nothing else to prove, but that's fine.

Have a nice day sir.

Adc carries the hardest as 2/3 players build and play towards peeling for that adc every game .

Adc is strong role

Autofill on adc not very GOODEST player

Adc main stronger Adc main carry harder

Adc main get free win off support and tank items

Adc role number 1

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 20177 votes

ADCs aren't as proactive within the early game as other roles.

ADCs wait for skirmishes or team fights in order to do their job.

Three other roles can easily fall behind way faster within the early game because they had no idea what they're doing because they don't main that role.

BańgSep 20, 20171 votes

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ADCs aren't as proactive within the early game as other roles.

ADCs wait for skirmishes or team fights in order to do their job.

Three other roles can easily fall behind way faster within the early game because they had no idea what they're doing because they don't main that role.

Have ur friends ever confronted you about your situation?

The one where you completely ignore every word someone says And repeat your version which has been proven to be wrong by MULTIPEL TOP 200 PLAYERS

Now either you think you're smarter than a challenger player or you just don't care about being right and would rather just troll

It has nothing to do with falling behind faster

I'm talking about I M P A C T O N T H E E N D G A M E R E S U L T

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 20176 votes

Why does it matter if they're the top 200? They all don't think alike about the game, and if anything I've heard more players in the top half of the bracket complain about auto filled rather than bot lane, because even if both bot lanes weren't autofilled at least they'll match up in competitive strength.

But then again are you Challenger, if so at least stop board smurfing.

BańgSep 20, 20171 votes

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Why does it matter if they're the top 200? They all don't think alike about the game, and if anything I've heard more players in the top half of the bracket complain about auto filled rather than bot lane, because even if both bot lanes weren't autofilled at least they'll match up in competitive strength.

But then again are you Challenger, if so at least stop board smurfing.

because the odds of that happening are very low.

2 autofilled bot lanes going against eachother?

why are we even speculating and shit when you have the facts in front of u.

i had an autofilled bot lane , they didnt.

they shit on my bot lane took every drag my jungler lost bot side jungle and mid was then dove for free.

they had full control after because their adc was 3 shotting my backline all while doing it from a range and if u did get near her she had an e girl janna main that was talking shit in all chat when her ass was boosted from plat 5 to diamond 5 by some jungle main in d3

the only way for my statement to be false is when riot nerfs supports/tanks so adcs dont become too strong from their help and THEN autofill will become a problem for all roles.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 20, 20175 votes

How does not knowing how to play your role and falling behind have to do with other roles being strong

If you're auto filled and fall behind regardless of role you'll most odds lose because the player doesn't know what to do, and will probably do a whole lot of nothing, this can happen in top and mid lane and then they can roam and impact the map too, so what's the idea behind this?

If laners lose that's always a chance to invade jungle regardless of side.

GayFluffyUnicornSep 22, 20171 votes

Because toplane has absolutely no impact? Because you can just pick some of those braindead tanks top and never be irrelevant no matter how bad you are? God boards.

StoryDuckSep 20, 20173 votes

Autofill....what's that? Alistar Braum Bard Janna Karma Leona Lulu Rakan Sona Soraka Thresh Taric TahmKench Zyra Nami

nice tableSep 20, 20172 votes

but the game is determined by bot lane h3h3xd

KnoyleSep 20, 20172 votes

This is why I try to have at least a remotely competent understanding of each role. I'll always main Jungle but I used to play a lot of Support, practiced Top lane match ups, dabbled in mid from time to time and have always found myself dipping in and out of the ADC role. As far as comfort/favor goes.

Jungle
Support
Mid
Top
ADC

LichKing234Sep 20, 20171 votes

ikr always have a champ pool that covers all roles im a top lane main and while yes my top lane champ pool is huge i can play a good number of other roles cause i praticed them for me its 1.Top 2.Support 3.Mid 4.Jungle 5.adc (mostly cause im nto use to playing squish carries hell i dont even play assassins most of the time)

WinTheWarOnPantsSep 20, 20172 votes

Same Top: Evelynn JG: Evelynn Mid: Evelynn Adc: Evelynn Sup: Evelynn

Succubús GFSep 20, 20172 votes

I actually kind of disagree. If I got autofilled to top lane (which isn't an issue because you should generally now 4/5 roles really well past silver) and let's say I did really poorly like 0/9 but it wasn't a hyper carry, the game wouldn't dramatically change. On the other hand if our adc went 0/9 that would generally be a lot more game changing [sg-zephyr]

PrinceOfStormsSep 20, 20172 votes

The difference though, is that bot lane is the only lane that actually matters.

DuskDaUmbreonSep 21, 20172 votes

Not any role, actually. The only one that I'd say is determined by autofill is jungle, and that's because it's the only one you can lose without ever fighting your opponent. You can't lose lane to minions alone, it just isn't happening. The odds of you dying unintentionally to minions alone is zero. But jungle? You can lose by dying to camps easily. Especially if you try for riskier first-starts, like raptors. You can mess up ganks before you even enter the lane. There's just so many more things you can fuck up. Drake, Herald, and Baron being taken all relies on you, and you impact every lane, no matter where you are. Even if you never gank top, you influence it. If you're seen in bot, the enemy top knows they can be more aggressive. You can end up feeding every lane, and costing your team the game. It's remarkably easy. And so few champions from other lanes can be flexed to jungle and do well.

S92nBSep 20, 20171 votes

Are there any autofilled bot lanes?

I usually take fill as role and never get botlane lately.

I am always top lane sigh

ZeranaSep 21, 20171 votes

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Are there any autofilled bot lanes?

I usually take fill as role and never get botlane lately.

I am always top lane sigh

For some reason I get jungle, but I main support, so I'm just guessing it's the second least desired role.

DuskDaUmbreonSep 21, 20171 votes

Really? For a while, I could only get top if I put in top/mid. Nothing else would get me top more than a third of the time.

Jet SettSep 20, 20171 votes

Bot lane is determined most by auto fill and has the biggest consequences.

XenomancersSep 20, 20171 votes

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Bot lane is determined most by auto fill and has the biggest consequences.

pretty obvious why. ADC is the hardest roll to get so it's almost never going to be autofilled - support is the least desired roll (for some reason) and support is the most likely to be autofilled. Auto-fill support is pretty easy for main bot laners to identify and destroy. Bot lane is also the easiest lane to get kills in so when exposed the main bot laners can really take advantage of a trash support. It's the main reason I main support. Not because I'm not good at mid or jungle - I just know support is where I can make the biggest difference and I will do anything to win.