Have you noticed that all the most annoying champions...

Sorgklaan··15 votes·1,640 views

Have the ability to pretty much infinitely dash on top of you no matter how fast you are going?

Riven Fiora Fizz Vayne Irelia Kalista

It just feels so hopeless playing against them, because you know no matter what, you are not going to be able to escape from them. :_:

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ReshiKillim13 votes

Actually, Fiora and Irelia have situational dash spam. If Irelia doesn't kill something with her dash, she gets her long dash CD. If Fiora doesn't hit someone when she dashes, she gets a long CD. Fiora dash CD is reduced by 60% if she hits something with it.

Graggy can actually dash more than Fiora and Irelia in a good 50% of situations.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Later in the game the Irelia cooldown becomes a joke tho...

"Oh you peeled me off once? Oh my, Bladesurge is up YET AGAIN..."

Bisaknosp4 votes

Jax hi

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

At least that guy does not deal true damage...

53436278DEL111 votes

Tryndamere

Narasimha3 votes

Eh, it's all relative. I find Annie and Yorick to be much more irritating than anyone on your list save Fizz, and they're pretty much the definition of immobile.

Svddenly1 votes

I know of Annie, but who is this Yorick guy you're talking about?

SEKAI3 votes

Blame Lee, he started this whole train wreck.

DarthSpectrum4 votes

Actually Ashe and Kayle started the mobility creep.

The slows in their kit were so strong that they will wreck any melee champions without low CD gap closers. Along then came XinZhao to correct that problem.

However, Xin Zhao was actually an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile upon release who wrecked everyone, marking the first of OP champion releases that led to LeeSin Irelia etc.

SEKAI1 votes

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Actually Ashe and Kayle started the mobility creep.

Never have I been so happy to be corrected. Yes, you're indeed correct.

Those 2 were the cause, Lee was simply a byproduct that made things worse from there.

But I gotta say, he is on the other hand, the one who started overloading though.

DarthSpectrum1 votes

LeeSin was inevitable. Riot already dug too deep when they released Kassadin and then Leblanc. Old LB can kill you at level 2 with two Q+W combos before Riot hot-fixed her. Kassadin didn't have to win lane. At level 6, the SR becomes his lane and he can just ult down bot and kill the ADC before his silence wears off.

Lee was actually kinda mediocre when he first came out. He suffered the same condition as Yasuo and reworked Ryze. A new complex champion needs to be released game-breakingly OP, or they will be buffed to even stronger levels when no one bothers to learns them.

Release Yasuo is broken in current standards. Any Yasuo main today will dominate any game they play with released-Yasuo. His shield blocked 690 damage, lasted 2 seconds, and was essentially on a 2 second CD since it only took 4 .5 CD sweeping blades to charge it to max. His Sweeping Blade also did 400 damage... at level 1. Not to mention Yasuo had higher MS, and health.

Same with Ryze. Ryze could essentially perma-root any champion if he is played right. However, because these champions were too difficult to be effectively played right from the start, Riot ended up buffing them the patch after. When people did figure them out, all hell broke loose.

Lee Sin was a product of the same situation. However, Riot never got to nerf because by the time they tried, too many players have already played him and didn't want to lose this "fun" champion.

Nonetheless, I don't want to undermine the role that LeeSin did play. Because Riot never nerfed really nerfed Lee Sin, they believe that it is alright for subsequent champions to be like Lee Sin as well.

Enter: Kalista and Ekko

TeemoJenkins2 votes

. . . **Azir **has a gap closer... **Gragus **has a gap closer... **Lucian **has a gap closer... **Shen **has a gap closer... **Kat **has a gap closer... **LeBlanc **has a gap closer... **Kalista **has ALL the gap closer... **Zac **has a gap closer... **Aatrox **has a gap closer... tried of listing champs that also have gap closers.

Sorgklaan1 votes

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. . . **Azir **has a gap closer... **Gragus **has a gap closer... **Lucian **has a gap closer... **Shen **has a gap closer... **Kat **has a gap closer... **LeBlanc **has a gap closer... **Kalista **has ALL the gap closer... **Zac **has a gap closer... **Aatrox **has a gap closer... tried of listing champs that also have gap closers.

Most of them have dashes with long cooldowns though, so they can't just sit on top of you as you run away.

Kalista, sure. Leblanc, sure. But the rest have either a very low movement speed or else have a long cooldown on their dash.

ApexInTheCircle1 votes

{quoted}

. . . **Azir **has a gap closer... **Gragus **has a gap closer... **Lucian **has a gap closer... **Shen **has a gap closer... **Kat **has a gap closer... **LeBlanc **has a gap closer... **Kalista **has ALL the gap closer... **Zac **has a gap closer... **Aatrox **has a gap closer... tried of listing champs that also have gap closers.

and all of them except kalista has them on a fairly high cooldown early and mid game. As opposed to the problem children listed in the OP

JustBoneBrook2 votes

{quoted} Fiora It just feels so hopeless playing against them, because you know no matter what, you are not going to be able to escape from them. :_:

Wait you can't escape Fiora ... but you can escape XinZhao ,MasterYi Tryndamere Vi ?

Heckin Support1 votes

Also some of the most toxic playstyle champions are mostly AD. A few ap sprinkled in their, but mostly AD.

Rebonack9 votes

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Also some of the most toxic playstyle champions are mostly AD. A few ap sprinkled in their, but mostly AD.

Vlad and Akali are single-handedly the reason why Spellvamp can't be good.

Chespin20131 votes

or Morde too

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

Morde is all AoE, he isn't the reason. Vlad's Q and Akali Q/R, and passive kind of force Spellvamp to be weak.

ForgottenLuck1 votes

Don't forget yas i hate his the most

Shosuko1 votes

Never gonna catch them, never gonna get away.

BeMyFriendPlease1 votes

I wish fizz cds were the same as riven's.

3TWarrior1 votes

I noticed this earlier in a game. I was playing rumble (bot match, terrible connection) and had upgraded boots and of course his temporary speed boosting shield...well, a riven without any movement items can outrun him simply by dashing...interesting

67chrome1 votes

Have you noticed that all the most annoying champions... Have the ability to pretty much infinitely dash on top of you no matter how fast you are going?

Teemo Shaco Nunu Fizz

Pretty sure the most annoying champions don't have a lot of dashes as a rule.

I'd go with nasty traps, an irritating laugh, or being Fizz.

It just feels so hopeless playing against them, because you know no matter what, you are not going to be able to escape from them. :_:

Mobility helps with reflexive/reactive plays more than anything else.

If you're playing against a more mobile champion, it's in your best interest to rely on tactical plays/foresight/planning to deal with them. With thinking ahead: I wouldn't call it annoying aiming skillshots to strike where a mobile champion is going to be, positioning your champion in a dangerous spot for your opponents to dash to, or just avoiding situations you're 100% toast if an enemy runs into you.

If you want to focus on reflexive plays rather than tactical ones or strategic ones - a mobile champion is also exactly the kind that would fit your play-style if you're not into the chess gameplay aspects involved requiring foresight.

Otherwise - a lot of the mobile champions you listed mostly just kill you if you made a relatively large positioning error. That, or they're really fed.

AzureInTheDark1 votes

I have a solution. His name is Ryze. Ryze

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