If you are toxic in normals

Succubús GF·Nov 15, 2018·16 votes·6,863 views

Please uninstall the game. Toxicity happens, i totally get it sometimes im a bitch it happens. However never in my life have i ever flamed the ONLY person doing well for not doing better. Matter of fact I havent flamed anybody hardcore in a very long ass time. Like yes i get occasionally passive aggressive to people who say shitty things. But i cant imagine playing a normal and being like "THIS PERSON isn't playing at pro level, make them feel bad about it" Like how hard is it to not be awful to people just existing. Just playing a normal game. Like in rank i can understand toxicity to the extent of frustration (obviously not that shit like "kys fucking nubbie uninstall") but just like take a moment, breathe. And if you still feel toxic. Hit enter /mute all And focus on YOUR gameplay.

P.s An extra Fuck you if you premake to be toxic to one person in a four person group

21 Comments

BiochemicalZombiNov 15, 20186 votes

Your first line is telling them to uninstall,

On another account I told an ape irl to uninstall And I got a 25 game chat ban.

The fact that people upvote you just shows the mindless people on here who upvote whatever sounds good to them when your obviously being hypocritical

WeaselRuneNov 15, 20181 votes

I see the line of reasoning youre going with, and if they told someone playing poorly to uninstall Id agree with you.

Theyre clearly talking about asking assholes to kindly fuck off out of the community, and youre calling them out as if theyre the problem to begin with.

Asking assholes to fuck off may not be polite, but its reactionary to the "problem." Punishing people who say things to trolls, or intent feeders, or whatever other poor behavior that is ACTUALLY running matches isnt making the game a better place... its just punishing people who call out trolls.

So here you are equating someone with the very assholes theyre asking to leave the game...

Could the wording be different in their post? Yeah, wouldnt hurt if only to avoid the bullshit youre pulling here that ignores the spirit of the message.

The context of you telling someone to uninstall is clearly that you had contempt for them and a lack of respect (calling them an ape and all). The context of them saying uninstall has to do with asking people who rage in normals about how well people are playing, and telling them to leave the community.

Theres a difference, and if you cant tell... well maybe youre the problem.

BiochemicalZombiNov 15, 20181 votes

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I see the line of reasoning youre going with, and if they told someone playing poorly to uninstall Id agree with you.

Theyre clearly talking about asking assholes to kindly fuck off out of the community, and youre calling them out as if theyre the problem to begin with.

Asking assholes to fuck off may not be polite, but its reactionary to the "problem." Punishing people who say things to trolls, or intent feeders, or whatever other poor behavior that is ACTUALLY running matches isnt making the game a better place... its just punishing people who call out trolls.

So here you are equating someone with the very assholes theyre asking to leave the game...

Could the wording be different in their post? Yeah, wouldnt hurt if only to avoid the bullshit youre pulling here that ignores the spirit of the message.

The context of you telling someone to uninstall is clearly that you had contempt for them and a lack of respect (calling them an ape and all). The context of them saying uninstall has to do with asking people who rage in normals about how well people are playing, and telling them to leave the community.

Theres a difference, and if you cant tell... well maybe youre the problem.

I don’t think you realize this. Riots golden rule is to treat everyone the same no matter the context. You can have someone int the whole game but if you are toxic towards them it will still count against you.

Riot doesn’t care if you are telling the assholes or the non assholes, it doesn’t matter to them.

That’s why I’m saying that if the OP is asking them to uninstall it’s still toxic under riots rules

Also I didn’t tell him he’s an ape irl, all I said post game is and I remember clearly “Jax please uninstall” and then I left, showed up in my report summary thing

A very good but more extreme is what happened to video game dunkey.

WeaselRuneNov 16, 20181 votes

OP is asking them to uninstall it’s still toxic under riots rules

A forum post that violates the rules would have been removed by the moderators by now. So you are both substantively wrong, and (because its still here) obviously wrong.

Telling someone to uninstall in a match would have been inappropriate because its meant to offend that person. Speaking of, again YOU targeted a specific person and gave them your rage. Further on that issue, chat restriction starts at 5 games as I understand, then goes to 15, then 25... So Im betting you have told more than one person to uninstall. Probably said a bit other stuff. Im willing to go on and assume that youve said this to players in "normals" matches. Since this is a topic about not being toxic in normals matches, and you see a trigger word that you got punished over you cant see the difference.

There is a difference, and if I was forced to guess, you lack the maturity to see that difference.

If you really cant see the difference between "Fuck you (insert name here), dont play the game anymore" and "If you do (insert bad behavior here), fuck you dont play the game anymore" then I guess we will both have to wait for you to gain some more life experience.

BiochemicalZombiNov 20, 20181 votes

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A forum post that violates the rules would have been removed by the moderators by now. So you are both substantively wrong, and (because its still here) obviously wrong.

Telling someone to uninstall in a match would have been inappropriate because its meant to offend that person. Speaking of, again YOU targeted a specific person and gave them your rage. Further on that issue, chat restriction starts at 5 games as I understand, then goes to 15, then 25... So Im betting you have told more than one person to uninstall. Probably said a bit other stuff. Im willing to go on and assume that youve said this to players in "normals" matches. Since this is a topic about not being toxic in normals matches, and you see a trigger word that you got punished over you cant see the difference.

There is a difference, and if I was forced to guess, you lack the maturity to see that difference.

If you really cant see the difference between "Fuck you (insert name here), dont play the game anymore" and "If you do (insert bad behavior here), fuck you dont play the game anymore" then I guess we will both have to wait for you to gain some more life experience.

It was ranked
I never said I’m not toxic It’s precisely because I am toxic I can confidently say telling someone or telling a generalized group of people to uninstall is toxic no matter what in riots eyes.
I don’t really understand if it’s you can’t read or maybe you have some vitamin defficiencies I can differentiate what is toxic and what isn’t I clearly stated that under riots perspective, telling someone to uninstall whether they are trolling or just having a bad game is exactly the same.

If you doubt me then you can experiment. Make a brand new account, obviously soft int ( no matter how obvious as long as riot sees you “trying” you won’t get banned) wait for people to say something remotely flame like or even passive aggressive. Report all instances of it and you will get feedback reports.

I’m not talking about geniunly bad players who are actually trying. It doesn’t even matter what rank you are you can tell. Well maybe bronze is a bit sus, but after you’ve experienced enough games you can tell when someone is soft inting of the bat.

But guess what flaming the bad player or the soft inter will get the same results punishment. I think that’s wrong, you shouldn’t be punished for telling something to a degree to a griefer, but like you’ve obviously missed in RIOTS eyes it’s the same.

TL;DR

By your logic why don’t you go and test it out, find a griefer say fuck you uninstall the game and have someone report you.

Guaranteed your “righteous” behavior won’t save you from a chat ban.

Also you probably shouldn’t be talking about having maturity when your eyes haven’t matured enough to read what I said.

WhistersnivetNov 15, 20185 votes

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Your first line is telling them to uninstall,

On another account I told an ape irl to uninstall And I got a 25 game chat ban.

The fact that people upvote you just shows the mindless people on here who upvote whatever sounds good to them when your obviously being hypocritical

I think by "Uninstall" he just means "don't play the game"

Succubús GFNov 15, 20181 votes

*She, but yes that's right

Succubús GFNov 15, 20182 votes

On another account I told an ape irl to uninstall And I got a 25 game chat ban.

You sure it was just "uninstall" I have some doubts looking at that sentence,

Inkling CommandoNov 16, 20182 votes

all of the yes. if you gonna play in norms you need to lower the toxic gauge down a few notches. there ain't no risk or reward for winning or losing so there is no reason to be pissy at anyone. in ranked, while i also don't support it, can at least ~~accept~~ understand it cause you expect people to know what the fuck they are doing and if they don't you get mad. i can understand that. but no reason for any of that shit in norms.

WeaselRuneNov 16, 20181 votes

I can accept this kind of attitude on the issue no problem.

Unfortunately we have people in this topic putting on their troll faces and going on with the "You said uninstall! So youre just as bad as someone who tells others to kill themselves for missing skillshots!"

Its not the same thing, and we have people pretending like it is; or frighteningly they cant genuinely tell the difference.

OneMustFallNov 15, 20181 votes

"If you're toxic..."

Proceeds to be toxic.

You're part of the the never ending spiral now.

WeaselRuneNov 15, 20181 votes

Telling assholes to fuck off isnt polite, but then the police can shoot someone who just shot someone... Why is that? Do the police get shot for shooting someone who is shooting other people? No...

Is telling problem people who start arguments to amuse themselves, intent feed, target ban, or say racist stuff to fuck off a "problem" in the game? Not really. Telling people who play this game start problems in matches to uninstall is asking assholes to leave the community, not throwing a tantrum cause someone is first timing and missing skillshots, or overextending.

They clearly mention people raging at others in normals, and being toxic. Theyre saying those people can fuck off, and stop playing. That isnt toxic. The people who ruin matches are toxic, and asking them to leave may not do anything, but it istself isnt thing you groan and say "we could be winning except this person is asking this other player to stop being toxic."

ArvDaBeastNov 15, 20181 votes

You are comparing harsh words to a crime involving the life and death of many people.... gtfo

OneMustFallNov 16, 20181 votes

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Telling assholes to fuck off isnt polite, but then the police can shoot someone who just shot someone... Why is that? Do the police get shot for shooting someone who is shooting other people? No...

Is telling problem people who start arguments to amuse themselves, intent feed, target ban, or say racist stuff to fuck off a "problem" in the game? Not really. Telling people who play this game start problems in matches to uninstall is asking assholes to leave the community, not throwing a tantrum cause someone is first timing and missing skillshots, or overextending.

They clearly mention people raging at others in normals, and being toxic. Theyre saying those people can fuck off, and stop playing. That isnt toxic. The people who ruin matches are toxic, and asking them to leave may not do anything, but it istself isnt thing you groan and say "we could be winning except this person is asking this other player to stop being toxic."

This is a faulty comparison and an appeal to the extremes. Comparing a real life threat with the police's most extreme response to that situation when we are talking about telling someone to fuck off who is being toxic isn't comparable in any way.

The point is whether your actions are just or not is irrelevant. Telling someone to fuck off or stop playing is toxic and contributes to a negative atmosphere. It will not contribute to the desire outcome of ceasing toxic behavior and will more than likely encourage the other person to continue flaming his teammates. Not only that but it will likely affect your team's performance. Muting and ignoring are the best tools against toxic behavior. People who flame feed off getting a reaction and by taking your time to acknowledge his behavior is just throwing fuel on the fire.

WeaselRuneNov 16, 20181 votes

This is a faulty comparison and an appeal to the extremes. Comparing a real life threat with the police's most extreme response to that situation when we are talking about telling someone to fuck off who is being toxic isn't comparable in any way.

I dont like your point so Im pretending it doesnt exist cause its too hard to argue with is all I see.

The point is whether your actions are just or not is irrelevant.

Wow....

encourage the other person to continue flaming his teammates

Were not in a match............ Fucking WOW! WE ARE NOT IN A DAMN MATCH RIGHT NOW! They asked people to uninstall on the forums... what "teammates flaming" is that encouraging?

affect your team's performance

Were not in a match... this is the forums.

In another post on this topic I say to someone:

"I see the line of reasoning youre going with, and if they told someone playing poorly to uninstall Id agree with you."

See.... I said IF cause then they would be saying it IN A MATCH but this is telling them to fuck off in the forums... Sorry asking people who are toxic in normals to leave the game has had an impact on your (forum) performance and encouraged (forum) teammates to flame you....

ArvDaBeastNov 17, 20181 votes

“Make me” you’re acting like nothing but a child

Vlada CutNov 15, 20181 votes

This... This is what I've been telling people for so long...

Tr4shB4NSYST3MNov 16, 20181 votes

I mute /all chat now since its basically only used for flame these days, and since getting banned for "toxic chat" on previous accounts and generally when i'm responding to someone flaming I try to keep my toxicity mild.

Basically if someone starts talking shit I'll say "lol dumb/idiot" and if they're bad "lol bad" or "trash LOL" and spam ping their death timer when they die etc, or if botlane goes 1-12 "damn botlane really shat the bed"

Also don't really get the line at the top about "flaming the only person whose doing well" unless they are repeatedly flaming you/others idk why anyone would flame the one playing best on the team