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Why Does it Seem Like Riot Doesn't Want Assassins to be Hard to Play

BrightWîngs··1 votes·741 views

Im not trying to rage about anything but am i the only one who noticed this most assassins are either point and click or have decent AOE so they cant miss

Examples

Rengar kinda just clicks on you not much you can really do to out play

LeBlanc W being very easy to land does AOE Q point and click nuke and her E has insanely forgiving hit box

Talon pretty much same thing really easy to land AOE ability and a point and click nuke

Fizz AOE ability that removes himself from the game other 2 basic abilities are point and click and ultimate has an insanely forgiving hit box

Kassidin 2 AOE abilities and other 2 are point and click all do massive amounts of damage (I'm aware he's a strong late game champ)

Kha'Zix Q point and click nuke and AOE from leap

I'm not saying these champions are broken I'm saying they are all incredibly easy to play the one assassin that isn't easy to play and I know I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this is Zed I will not deny Zed is super annoying to deal with but I don't mind going against him because i know i have a better chance out playing Zed than anyone else by either faking out his Qs or instantly CCing him right out of his ult

I will state again this isn't a post to rage or spread hate I just want to see more assassins that arnt 1 dementional boring point and click nukers

3 Comments

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

Riot literally made an entire class rework specifically to make them take more skill and have longer kill times so I will have to disagree with that premise plus they nerf them and their items a lot. Also they are easy to play but once you get to the levels of league where champ strength matters more they aren't that great. The class has low utility, low cc, and can basically only either kill you or be useless. If they were also hard to play they would probably be pointless.

BrightWîngs1 votes

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Riot literally made an entire class rework specifically to make them take more skill and have longer kill times so I will have to disagree with that premise plus they nerf them and their items a lot. Also they are easy to play but once you get to the levels of league where champ strength matters more they aren't that great. The class has low utility, low cc, and can basically only either kill you or be useless. If they were also hard to play they would probably be pointless.

you confuse being hard to play with not being 1 denominational im not saying all assassins need to be Lee sin I just think they should be at the very least interesting the whole point can click nuke is all too common and kinda just lazy now look at Zed with his full combo for him to effectively kill someone and maximize his damage is by landing multiple Qs from his shadows THIS is interesting THIS isnt boring the ONLY point and click nuke zed has is when they are already low I guess what Im getting at is more assassins need to be more like Zed theres a reason hes the most popular and yet he has a high skill cap assassins can very much be hard and still work Zed is the prime example of that of course theres always got to be a easier champion of every class but they shouldnt all play the same.

VoraciousX1 votes

Honestly I think Leblanc is a LOT easier to outplay than the other assassins you mentioned, including Zed. You can bait her to W to specific locations and then she's pretty much useless, because that's where her damage comes from for the most part. She's also probably the most be fed or feed champion out of the assassin roster. When they reworked her, she wasn't really an assassin anymore. Rengar on the other hand, I feel needed to keep his rework. An auto attack enhancement on an assassin with a leap is pretty crazy. His Q allowed people to dodge his abilities even if he leaped on you, and now that's pretty much impossible, and Kassadin honestly isn't super easy to play really at all. I mean sure his kit is pretty basic, but you have to survive the laning phase and you're pretty weak if you don't make it to late game. I'm not a fan of Talon or Fizz, but I wouldn't say they're EASY to play either.

The thing about assassins is their kits are generally easy to understand, but they don't usually have CC that is helpful to them) and have to worry about other things a lot more than other champions. For example, they can't get out of situations like for example if they were hit by a Morgana Q like someone else would because their abilities are all about mobility to avoid those things, with no CC to defend against enemies looking to jump on them. If I were playing Lux and got hit by a Morg Q, I could Q someone about to jump on me, shield myself, ult, barrier, etc. As an assassin if I take barrier I'm likely screwing myself over because I need kills early to get ahead so I can be relevant. I don't have CC of my own so I can't keep people from jumping on me if I get rooted by a skillshot, and I don't have shields to give myself a bit of survivability. All I have as an assassin is damage, so I have to keep myself alive by not getting hit by abilities like that in the first place, where other champions could still survive despite being hit by them.

If you want Riot to make an assassin have a more difficult ability list, you'd have to compensate them with more damage than they currently have, and no one wants that.

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