Elise "changes" in PBE
** Elise Movement Speed (Spider form) increased to 355 from 345 Movement Speed (Human form) reduced to 325 from 335 Cocoon (Human E) missle speed increased to 1600 from 1450**
Because her human form wasn't slow already >...>
**Edit **- Sure 355 is great for her spider form, But i don't understand why her human form has to become even slower?
**Edit 2 **- "Please Riot. Her damage is fine, her clear is alright, and her new movespeed will help her, but the increased speed on her Cocoon doesn't mean a whole lot when it's width is the size of a pencil. Increase the width and let her have reliable ganks again."
Her damage isnt fine. Half her damage base is required to be in melee range. and if you need damage on her she has to be squishy. With the new items and changes to the game plus her past damage nerfs. all tanks have to do is build resistance and Hp to render her useless. She use to be able to trade against tanks but now not so much.
**Edit 3 **- "It's almost as if this is the point of building resistances: to reduce the damage dealt by your opponents.
I'm all for Elise buffs in principle, but last time Elise was good she was just another generalist champion who kept numerous other junglers out of the meta through her mere presence. She's very much like Lee Sin and J4 in that her kit has no obvious holes or weaknesses in it; therefore, she's unbalanced whenever she has any actual strengths. Basically, as long as Elise keeps her potential to do everything in one kit, she has to have worse damage than damage junglers, worse CC than ganking junglers, worse sustain than dedicated sustain junglers, and worse bulk than dedicated tank junglers, or she's broken. Unfortunately, that means that her being "underpowered" is actually her most desirable state; you can first pick her into any team comp because she does everything, but picking a champion who better synergizes with your team comp will always be the better decision.
This change on PBE is a good first step to giving Elise some kind of tradeoff. Once Elise has real tradeoffs, she can be given real strengths."
So other mages are allowed to kill tanks but not elise?
YES mr and hp is to the point to build vs mages, but elise cant trade as well as other mages vs tanks. you know why? Half her damage is in YES Melee form. Idk why you are talking about her pushing others out of the jungle because that is old news. the new jungle isnt wanted for her and she doesnt have obvious weakness and holes? Lmao are you serious? She is a range AND a melee mage. she has 1 stun that is only 1 second at level 1 she has 2 mobility skills. One of them has a cd of 26/23/20/17/14 and not to top it off it has to land on an enemy unit. So dont group her with j4 and leesin because she isnt unbalanced as you try to make her. Her being underpowered Shouldnt be a desirable state anymore! you wonder why? Because Things change and it did change. She was OP before and needed nerfs because of the past meta, but now? with all the itemization, new champions and "meta" change. She is under powered and she does deserve more than just Movement speed changes.

