Conqueror is great, now we just need tabi nerfs + bone plating and top lane would be pretty good

Rexxiee··2 votes·904 views

No more getting stonewalled by tanks thanks to conqueror does feel good, but itemization is still bad (BC just straight up sucks, bad build path bad powerspike) and counter itemization is still too strong (mainly resolve early game flat hp + tabi + bramble vest + boneplating).

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Mortekaiser4 votes

nerf junglers impact on the early game and I'd have no problem with toplane anymore

Ragnaveil1 votes

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nerf junglers impact on the early game and I'd have no problem with toplane anymore

Conqueror was a mistake. "This will be the primary skirmisher keystone" starts pubstomping every existing thing possible. Soon they'll have to go through every champ that has that skirmish power and nerf it around this bloody keystone, and we arrive back at the same issue with top: They dont know how to balance it.

Mortekaiser1 votes

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Conqueror was a mistake. "This will be the primary skirmisher keystone" starts pubstomping every existing thing possible. Soon they'll have to go through every champ that has that skirmish power and nerf it around this bloody keystone, and we arrive back at the same issue with top: They dont know how to balance it.

conqueror is fine. players can't build full tank and stonewall the lane with their base damage anymore. I do think some skirmishing champs will have to be looked at, but otherwise its fine

Ragnaveil1 votes

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conqueror is fine. players can't build full tank and stonewall the lane with their base damage anymore. I do think some skirmishing champs will have to be looked at, but otherwise its fine

They better be, because I find Riven to be a bit too strong with this rune.

Rexxiee1 votes

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They better be, because I find Riven to be a bit too strong with this rune.

Riven WR went down with this patch, shes at 48% now.

You know why? Because darius/kled and a few others got massively buffed by it so they now shit on her lol.

Ragnaveil1 votes

Right...I can't even remember the last time I ever saw a Kled this year. Darius is a natural counter to Riven, so idk why you'd pick her into him in the first place, and idk what else can actually shit on her with conqueror that can persist in the meta of soloqueue.

Rexxiee1 votes

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Right...I can't even remember the last time I ever saw a Kled this year. Darius is a natural counter to Riven, so idk why you'd pick her into him in the first place, and idk what else can actually shit on her with conqueror that can persist in the meta of soloqueue.

Kled's at 53% wr this patch, conqueror broke him.

Ragnaveil1 votes

"broke" him. You realize he's counterable pretty easily? I'm pretty sure his winrate went up because low elo tends to not pick his counters.

Iręlía1 votes

Well if my camps respawned a bit sooner, I wouldn't have to camp top all the time. :/

Eedat2 votes

I think the point is to make everything viable top lane, not just bruisers. It already kind of is at the bruiser only point already. Conqueror helps deal with both tabi and bone plating already

Colton1471 votes

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