I'm fine with Removing Malzahar's " W " if you buff the rest of his kit.

Wukong Airlines··40 votes·1,298 views

At this point you're really tryharding Riot!

You're trying to create a necromancaer when he actually used to be one.

You know what I liked about old Malza? Solid voidlings with decent movement speed and reasonable damage. and Null Zone used to be my favorite spell out of all. good for zoning anti tank spell which used to coordinate well with his old R (which used to do real damage.

You do realize you've nerfed his Q, E and R in compensation for his new W , and now you're shitting on his entire kit. so much for a rework no one ever asked for.

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Pandemic Punch3 votes

Revert now.

MetalGearTeemu3 votes

what if we put the null field from his R on his W to cast whenever... and then put his voidling on a passive, maybe every so many spells he gets a pretty strong one? so having 2 up later in the game with CDR is scary as fuck but he needs to prep and cycle spells to do it?

I think that would be much better then his current cancerfest... wink wink... nudge nudge. I bet they already have the changes in a file somewhere, could just pop them back in. Almost like a revert.

Lauchmelder2 votes

At this point I just flag for spam. Stick to one megathread and stop flooding the boards

Xilixer5 votes

we have to so that riot will finally listen.

Lauchmelder1 votes

No, you don't have to. Stick to one big thread instead of a million small ones, because that's just spamming. With this there comes a neat little button on the bottom right corner of each OP I can press to flag it for that.

Wukong Airways8 votes

I'd like to see where exactly is that big thread you talking about

Lauchmelder1 votes

Dude, I wonder, I FUCKING wonder, how there isn't a megathread yet.

Maybe it has to do with the fact that all the people bitching about him because they don't want to learn his new playstyle just create millions of threads instead of sticking to one thread, effectively spamming the boards and making any other conversation impossible.

I swear, they are more toxic than Vayne/Riven mains and more in denial than Ahri defenders.

Derfel6 votes

"I'm so triggered guys stop posting about malz i'm so triggered omg"

This is you right now. Grow a spine.

Lauchmelder1 votes

"Grow a spine" he says.

Right back at you, whiny little kids.

deadlychuck1 votes

because they don't want to learn his new playstyle

Did it ever occur to you that this could be due to it not being satisfying, enjoyable, or rewarding? I'll admit, a lot of people don't want to learn his playstyle. Having actually learned it myself, even back when it was massively over tuned, i can understand why people wouldn't waste their time learning it. The reworked malzahar isn't fun, reliable, or compelling.

There is very little difference between having learned the kit and not having learned the kit, because so much of it is subject to internal mechanics which pigeonhole you into a specific casting pattern, and all kill potential being placed onto his W, which is a inconsistent garbage ability, which functions without any player interaction. (Seriously the difference between a poke play and kill attempt, is pressing W at some point during the exchange) If you are using the rest of your kit in the one specific "acceptable" play pattern, then your W is basically automatic. You have basically no control over it dealing 0 or 2k damage, and considering it's the only part of your kit which offers reasonable kill potential, it makes the champion feel completely unrewarding to play. If you can't kill anyone, it's because the kit failed on it's own. If you kill everyone, it has nothing to do with you, it's all due to them not killing the voidlings and all you did was press W. It required no aiming, no timing, no micromanaging, nothing. It's just shallow boring gameplay that has a very low skill floor and an equally low skill ceiling. Which riot seemed to think was the case with pre-rework malzahar, which is probably one of the most ignorant or disingenuous beliefs riot seemed to hold about malzahar during the rework process.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

I can't advocate for the buffing of his E since it got the refresh and can't be cleansed by QSS anymore.

RottedApples1 votes

all i want to do is play old quinn.

KoKoboto1 votes

I want more information on how many voildings he can spawn in total, it seems like 2 but i heard somewhere he can stack 3 or something.

If it's only 2, regardless of whether or not they're more tanky, W is gonna suck even harder.

Xilixer1 votes

{quoted}

I believe (not 100% sure, but these are some of the things we've been talking about) in an upcoming PBE update there are buffs along the lines of E AP ratio increase and R having the beam have a flat damage component that occupies most of the AP ratio of the spell. The intention behind such changes are to reduce total power budget of W and increase power elsewhere in the kit.

Apologies for the continued silence on the state of Malzahar at the moment. You're not unheard.

quote from repertoir. so they are applying these changes to put damage into his other abilities.

Troll for Trump1 votes

It's like Sejuani, but the Cinderhulk is Malz's W

Dominick Destine1 votes

I'm fine with Removing Malzahar's " W " if you buff the rest of his kit.

So basically revert his rework?

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