@Balance Team - Concerning Nidalee

Nidken·1/27/2018, 2:22:05 PM·1 votes·715 views

I'm a three season Nidalee main with 1.2 million mastery points. I finished season 7 in Diamond with over 500 of those games on Nidalee.

Yes, I believe Nidalee may soon be in need of a nerf. However!

I play an AD off-tank bruiser type Nidalee jungle who gets her damage by weaving in auto-attacks between the animations of spells. ** I do not build her AP**, which is where she is thriving. It may not be the most viable build option but it is what I enjoy playing the most. If you decide to nerf Nidalee in the coming weeks PLEASE target her effectiveness as an AP Assassin first. Adjust her ratio's before looking at her base numbers.

Thank you for your time, Faithful Nidalee Player

5 Comments

ZephyrDrake1/28/2018, 1:38:00 AM2 votes

why would they nerf Nidalee?

WindLord70701/28/2018, 9:29:25 PM2 votes

She needs buffed so she can go top and mid again not nerfed.

Azadethe1/27/2018, 3:53:11 PM1 votes

Tell you what. Buff her Jungle presence, and I'd accept a Top AD Nidalee nerf, because her kit wasn't designed for Top AD, but suffers hard at jungle atm.

She's pretty much the only jungler who has a messy as hell early game, and find it very hard to stay up in health pre level 3. Post level 3, She still takes so much damage it's hard to reliably call her a top tier jungler.

She's also one of the only junglers who still follows the rule: I only exist in one part of the game. If your team doesn't respond to ganks by Nidalee early game, you're more or less finished. Even if you go 16/0 early game, you're finished if you don't end the game by 22-23 minutes, because after that, you just become team fight fodder.

As an AP "Assassin" as you call it.... she has a less than 50% win rate. Kill averages are low, deaths are high, assists are low.

She again is using item 3092 like Evelynn , because while her clear might be fine early, it's usually taken late, falls behind often because ganks are unreliable, and has very small windows to do anything late game when not played as an AD top.

Any jungle mage that needs to rely on a Frostfang tier has serious issues. It means either the jungle has been undertuned, or that AP junglers are nerfed hard already.

Personally, I feel like E doesn't even heal anymore. I can have 300 AP, and it heals me for 220 HP and I think...... wtf is this for anymore? Healing in jungle farm basically results in a situation where you are clearing 3 camps on less than 15% HP, making a real juicy target for an invade.

Furthermore, what I find funny is, her current winning runes have nothing to do with following up a hit spear. Like with Evelynn It's all about Electrocute dealing too much burst. Nidalee's kit reeks of being good with Phase rush, yet somehow Electrocute stomps it out.

Late game I can have 700 AP on Nidalee and an almost full range spear often only hits for 30% hp...... i mean wtf needs nerfed about that? Normally, if I try to go in and land the kill, I'm going to die, because my target's team has knockups/knockbacks.

Personally I haven't played Nidalee since early Season 7 until recently, so I'm not perfect. But I can see inherent flaws that didn't exist which make her easily the most miserable jungler now. If I play Norms game with NIdalee, I just want to slit my wrists. Gank bot after pinging 20 times, am behind ez/thresh just waiting for 8 full seconds for my team to move, and they afk farm! Go top, try to gank Fiora for Nasus. Nasus doesn't move, and just says "don't need help. Leave" Wtf is Nidalee if not a "MUST GANK LANES" jungler?

SwiftKitten881/28/2018, 9:52:07 PM1 votes

i cant actaully see your build as your match history wont show up.

but also being a nidalee player.. i highly disagree with almost everything you wrote..

if nid was to go back in lane it should be mid or support.. top was fun and all but even in season 4 between 4.10 and 4.17 when she was op top she had no counters...

nid has a horribly unsafe early clear.. and while i may be really fast after as u get items, many other champs can not only match her clear speed, but easily outpace in the early game

even champs like Warwick can clear faster than her, safer. with more hp.. and without needing to worry about an invade. and still have hp to gank afterwards.

nid is BARELY viable now after the runic buff but that still doesn't address the main issue of her first clear being so damn hard, unsafe, and easily invadable (yay i made up a new word)