So are more Mages going APC bot or is it just Ziggs...

xxxMadLionxxx·Jan 10, 2017·1 votes·832 views

cause I've been thinking Azir might be really good in bot too....

25 Comments

Death by GlamourJan 10, 20172 votes

Well some might go down to slap him around but none of them are any good at taking towers

SnakDatSmilesBakJan 10, 20172 votes

^^^^Word on the street is only ziggs is good and the rest are picked to counter him

Death by GlamourJan 10, 20173 votes

I'm surprised yasou hasn't made his way bot to deal with him tbh

Jacob RyanJan 12, 20171 votes

Yasuo does counter ziggs but the reason ziggs struggles in the mid lane against him is because in between his cool downs he struggles really hard. Where as when hes bot lane he has a support to make up for that. So I believe that yasuo won't counter him as hard against a hard peel support or any hard cc supports.

Say Zyra Ziggs against yasuo and anyone. If he dashes in zyra has her e and then ziggs can follow with q e and hes chunked.

ThatHaleStateJan 10, 20172 votes

I would only say a few things. Try them out for yourself bud. Lock that shit in, and either instamute or prepare for flame. Pave your own way friend, do as you please.

vOmvbrawfUJan 10, 20171 votes

I think Azir would get punched in the mouth if he went bot lane against someone like Leona.

xBushxJan 10, 20171 votes

Azir has mana problems. The only AP's that I can see going bot are Cass, Ziggs, Morde, (MAYBE Kayle)

khorneyJan 10, 20171 votes

ziggs has more mana issues then any other champ

xBushxJan 10, 20171 votes

LMAO....k.

xBushxJan 10, 20171 votes

Says the guy trying to make Aatrox a playable champ lmao

khorneyJan 10, 20171 votes

he is playable ? seeing u can drag at like 3 min byurself not many other champs can do that.

xBushxJan 11, 20171 votes

LOL...yeah and take 5 minutes doing it!!!

You could have got to level 5 by the time you finish it!!! LUL THIS is NOT viable at all. Literally the fastest way a jg could get BEHIND is a 3 min Drag.

Edit: At 3 mins ito game you arent even level 3 yet! 2 levels > Early Drag that could be gotten for half the time not solo.

khorneyJan 11, 20171 votes

I'm lvl 4 and so what drags are object and with that any advantage is great . However it's your laners that need to help you out by applying pressure. He also is great at early gawking because of his cc from his q and e.

xBushxJan 11, 20171 votes

Yeah 7 games played with 43% win rate. Shit is OP AF. Get lit off Aatrox. God Broken freelo!

SARCASM

Play more Malz no joke you have great win rate on him. * serious*

khorneyJan 11, 20171 votes

And people don't listen and he loses effectiveNess.

xBushxJan 11, 20171 votes

How so...you can easily grind gold on that winrate on Malz.

khorneyJan 11, 20171 votes

I started using taric more . And people don't listen . Malz is pretty op, use w double cast when your ganked or they jump on ur adc you'll bully there adc or kill them. Free banshee

xBushxJan 11, 20171 votes

My bad didn't realize it was strictly from support. Mid works too.

Meep ManJan 10, 20171 votes

The one who invented Ziggs Bottom Lane is curious about Viktor

BreakuJan 10, 20171 votes

Lol "invented" it. Popularized is a better word.

Orianna Kennen Ryze Veigar all work fairly well in bot lane as well.

What you're looking for in a bot lane APC is consistent damage, decent range, shorter cooldowns, benefits from other champions having CC.

xBushxJan 11, 20171 votes

NO Joke I would argue I "Invented" Pre nerf: Black Cleaver Yomumus rush on Lucian. AND TANK Ekko. I was doing BOTH LONG before their appearance in the mainstream. I actually got so sad my freelo was uncovered!

So I could see what youre saying here. But some people legit "Invent" things that turn out to be Math.

Jacob RyanJan 12, 20171 votes

You could say you invented it but im sure the chances of you being the first to try something for the first time is very rare. Most times a champion is released he is tried by people in every role possible.

BreakuJan 12, 20171 votes

Oh, for sure--that's not impossible.

But, the guy I quoted was likely referring to the streamer who first widely streamed APC botlane Ziggs. I've been playing it to the rage of my team for a few seasons now and I wouldn't say that I "invented" it.

Not that there's anything wrong with niche picks becoming popularized! I think it's great! But to use the term "invented" is just false.