Will sejuani get nerfed anytime soon ?

option paralysis·Jan 31, 2018·9 votes·679 views

http://na.op.gg/champion/sejuani/statistics/jungle

51.4% win rate, 21% pick rate. 33% ban rate. I mean, I would like to move during teamfights, Idk about you guys, but I like moving. Every game vs. her is a damn chore. I gotta babysit my bot lane not to get ulted at 6 and get double killed. Then in teamfights that aoe stun ult is just insane. Her passive is dumb. Qss is cool yeah, but she literally has CC in every ability of hers. Like what the hell. Knockup, slow, stun, stun.

16 Comments

ShiznyteJan 31, 20189 votes

Is win rate the only thing anyone uses to determine if a champion is over-tuned these days? pick and ban rates are cool an all and when you see champions with like an 80% ban rate or higher its safe to say yes something is up... But call me crazy, what if instead of just spewing out a win rate and stats we looked up on some website we didn't design, what if we listed the reasons why we think Sej is too strong? Then after that we can compare her to her contemporaries (other tank junglers) to see is she too strong in comparison to them too? Then after the comparison we then listed possible suggestions on how to balance her. Seems more productive than just saying something is OP and then letting the community go crazy!

I agree Sej is a bit too strong currently, but for me I think her Damage output as a full tank jungler is a good place to start! Most tank junglers cannot 100-0 an ADC 1v1, but somehow I have seen Sej do it multiple times! So I would start by some base stat nerfs on her skills, and maybe make her Winter's Wrath skill scale off the enemy max HP instead of her Max HP in order to allow the Carries some breathing room, while increasing her potential vs tanks!

Attticus FinchJan 31, 20186 votes

51% WR??? Stop the presses!

Baron BarianJan 31, 20186 votes

Hasn't she been nerfed 3 times in a row now?

MrHaZeYoJan 31, 20186 votes

See has a AoE Stun ult? Pretty sure it can only stun 1 person lol.

SHANK LUX MAINSJan 31, 20182 votes

Nope, riot doesn't and will never nerf tanks bc they are the favorite class.

vgamedudeFeb 1, 20182 votes

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Nope, riot doesn't and will never nerf tanks bc they are the favorite class.

That's a funny way to spell adc.

SHANK LUX MAINSFeb 1, 20181 votes

Yes adc opopop riots favorite class that's why a marksman can be 6k gold 2 levels ahead and die 1v1 to a mage or tank or bruiser or literally anythi class that isn't a support, and even then most supports can 1v1 marksmen for a large portion of the game.

vgamedudeFeb 1, 20181 votes

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Yes adc opopop riots favorite class that's why a marksman can be 6k gold 2 levels ahead and die 1v1 to a mage or tank or bruiser or literally anythi class that isn't a support, and even then most supports can 1v1 marksmen for a large portion of the game.

Yes, adcs should have the best early game, the best teamfight, the best 1v1, the best itemization, the best sustain, the best objective taking ability, and the cheapest builds. Hear ya loud and clear.

SHANK LUX MAINSFeb 1, 20181 votes

Hm lets see if anything you said is true (hint its not)

Early game: only adc that does dmg early is draven and hes dumpster tier rn bc he has no keystone

Teamfight maybe if you don't count mages who mash their abilities and do 1k dmg to an entire team at once

Itemization: adc items give nothing but damage and attack speed, other class items give buckets of passives and other free stats

Cheapest builds: again, an item that only gives damage SHOULD cost less than one that gives hp armor aa slow, aa reflect or an active.

Best objective taking: Ok so one thing theyre the best at.

So you made 1 relevant statement and the rest was incorrect circle jerking against adc. Nice.

vgamedudeFeb 1, 20181 votes

Probably can't do much without getting her due to her kit. 51 percent isnt really insane. Especially considering she isn't the most difficult champion either.

JarodDempseyFeb 1, 20181 votes

Sejuani isnt even that good rn, tanks and or fighters in general especially from jungle are just rlly strong rn. Sejuani especially her ult isnt great compared to how it used to be. If youre consistently stunned then your enemy must be super good at aiming and consistently focusing you.

GrReaper96Feb 1, 20181 votes

She already has a minor nerf in PBE

THE D1CFeb 1, 20181 votes

Like... Ban her. Even when champs win rates are shit if you don’t like competing against it.. learn it or ban it.

RexxieeFeb 1, 20181 votes

Broken tanks being broken, nothing to see here guys.

I do really hate playing melee vs sej though, over 5s worth of stuns while nuking the target at the same time, like holy shit i would like to actually be able to play the game as a melee against those broken tanks.

zarxus1234Feb 1, 20181 votes

why nerf sejuani shes not even broken.

vgamedudeFeb 1, 20181 votes

Draven has press the attack though?

And in teamfights adcs are highly regarded as the best sustained damage as autos are constant unmissable damage and much better against tanks, nearly all mages are terrible against tanks and in late game fights, sans special cases like azir, who's basically a magic damage adc late game.

ADC items give defense (in some cases, PD, Maw, GA) , sustain and damage, and are also cheaper than many others items. The sustain you get from FF and overheal and a bloodthirster or BORK is insane.

You have to be delusional to think adcs aren't king in teamfights.

The most recent LCK game that just happened for instance: https://imgur.com/a/zjOpB Vayne was comically far behind mind you.