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Can riot just do an obvious change to champions to make them viable instead of reworks?

XJ99999999999999·12/4/2019, 4:32:48 PM·1 votes·1,394 views

Look at Garen. He got a mini rework to make him viable or something yet the biggest change was making conq work on his spin. Why didn't they just do that? He didn't even have to get changed. This was the biggest issue with Garen but instead of simply making it work let's not do anything until we change the champion completly.

Wukong. Is he going to get the garen treatment where along with his rework conq will now work with his ult? Why not just give him the change instead of making him an awkward champion to use.

Diana is a good example of not doing too many changes at once, and keeping the champion the same. It's mostly just changing her E and R and giving her an actual ult (damage lol) and just making a better iteration of her passive, as they've tested quite a few different passives, but this one looks the best imo.

And then there is Shyvana, one of my favorite and my secret pick to climb elo with ease. She's a great champion, but her biggest issue is when you die, you don't get your fury gain while dead, so when you respawn, you might just start out with 0 if you died in dragon form or died right after it ended. If you are losing and getting sieged at your base and need to make a comeback, it's pretty damn hard as you need to go off and auto things to get it back. Your team wonders "what the hell is shyvana doing" not realizing she's a unique champion and needs her ult to actually do anything late game.

Another small thing is even her ult not benefitting from dragons (or maybe even cdr). 100% when they rework her they'll make any CDR you build actually benefit her and you bet your booty that they'll make the dragons mega buff her, especially cloud dragon, which is ult CDR, which doesn't help her at all.

Why not do small changes to these champions who get the short end of the stick with specific interactions instead of thinking "just wait till rework". A lot of these champions don't need reworks and they are pretty special to a lot of players, even those who don't play them.

8 Comments

Hayaishi212/4/2019, 5:17:20 PM2 votes

Because that takes work OP. Balance team only knows how to shift numbers around and call it "balance"

Summoner SpeII12/4/2019, 4:38:01 PM1 votes

how is shyvanna a good pick for elo? everytime i see enemy shyvanna i know i got my win in the bag because she does absolutely nothing early game and has no cc for the late game maybe if u talk about low elo, but anything is good low elo lol

ZephyrDrake12/6/2019, 1:39:11 AM1 votes

How are you saying that with Garen they did too many things at once but with Diana they haven't? Garen plays exactly the same as before the changes. Literally nothing about how he is played changed. What he did before and what he does now are exactly the same. They just removed things that tons of people didn't like and that it really wasn't doing anything for Garen and wasn't really integral to him or his gameplay it was just a dumb restriction that didn't make much sense for someone like him to have.