Wukong got 0 changes since season 4, no help in the jungle... better buff lee

option paralysis·Sep 6, 2017·20 votes·817 views

You can't play wukong top, because enemy can pick maokai - darius - renekton - galio - gragas - fiora - etc. to kick your ass. You can't play him jungle, because a red buff can 1v1 you and literally anyone can come and invade for the first blood. + in the meta of cinderhulk+knights vow+locket+stoneplate = you deal no dmg whatsoever and you get cc-ed if you try to do anything. You can't play him mid, say hi to long range mages. Yet 0 changes for him since season 4. However champs like lee sin that was meta for fuckin' ages, immediately gets help on his early game, because he's not in every single game, even though he still has a 23% pick rate.

What

joke

20 Comments

CochoSep 6, 20172 votes

according to leagueofgraphs and op.gg, he has a ~53% winrate in silver and gold.

a buff would make him too strong statistically in these elos. A change that makes him harder to play would be necessary to make him stronger in higher elos

OkumaSep 6, 20171 votes

This man understands!

option paralysisSep 6, 20172 votes

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according to leagueofgraphs and op.gg, he has a ~53% winrate in silver and gold.

a buff would make him too strong statistically in these elos. A change that makes him harder to play would be necessary to make him stronger in higher elos

he also has a 1% pick rate. and yeah, he's strong in low elo, because it's low elo. there's no wukong main higher than diamond 2 and even they have over 500-600 games on him just to get there. I didn't even ask for a dmg buff, there were multiple ideas for him to get help in the jungle, like his clone maybe stunning only monsters for 1 sec or something, or a mini rework would be fine too. but nothing happened for 3 seasons.

Sun Wu RyuumokuSep 6, 20172 votes

he also has a 1% pick rate.

No, wukong have a low pick rate, but not so low.

there's no wukong main higher than diamond 2 and even they have over 500-600 games on him just to get there.

No, even on Euw

https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=tigerthetiger https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=klatzenklopper

Kr https://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=%EA%B2%A8%EC%9A%B8%EC%A7%80%EB%82%98%EB%B4%84%EC%9D%B4%EC%98%A4%EB%93%AF

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=stev1ewonder https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=wukong2rank200

But anyway Wu need a f*cking rework, not just a qol like they did to Garen.

Sun Wu RyuumokuSep 6, 20172 votes

according to leagueofgraphs and op.gg, he has a ~53% winrate in silver and gold.

Don't throw number like that... don't forget to bring pickrate.

A change that makes him harder to play would be necessary to make him stronger in higher elos

And ?? thats what all Wukong players wish outside low elo.

CochoSep 6, 20174 votes

Yeah i agree with you, wukong probably does need a rework.

IPERFECTOSep 6, 20172 votes

And i am very happy that they didn't(wukong 300k points main here) any change will break\gut him, he is in perfect state now

Sun Wu RyuumokuSep 6, 20171 votes

perfect... for his current outdated kit. He need an update.

WráthfulSep 6, 20171 votes

wu+lethality

option paralysisSep 6, 20178 votes

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wu+lethality

and tell me in which lane are you gonna get 2 lethality items and not get destroyed before that ?

OkumaSep 6, 20171 votes

Just farm it up in the jungle. Avoid the jungler when/if he's invading. Rush a duskblade if neccesary and gank as much as you can.

Sun Wu RyuumokuSep 6, 20171 votes

Seems like u don't play nor Wukong nor jungle (u and Shadow warrior)

IPERFECTOSep 6, 20171 votes

Mid

Darkdemon653Sep 6, 20171 votes

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You can't play wukong top, because enemy can pick maokai - darius - renekton - galio - gragas - fiora - etc. to kick your ass. You can't play him jungle, because a red buff can 1v1 you and literally anyone can come and invade for the first blood. + in the meta of cinderhulk+knights vow+locket+stoneplate = you deal no dmg whatsoever and you get cc-ed if you try to do anything. You can't play him mid, say hi to long range mages. Yet 0 changes for him since season 4. However champs like lee sin that was meta for fuckin' ages, immediately gets help on his early game, because he's not in every single game, even though he still has a 23% pick rate.

What

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joke

Lee has a well-designed kit, while Wukong does not. While that certainly shouldn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to be balanced, it is an important factor in Riot's balancing decisions nonetheless.

koshkyraSep 6, 20171 votes

He oneshots the "long range mages" you're whining about at level 6.

option paralysisSep 7, 20171 votes

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He oneshots the "long range mages" you're whining about at level 6.

im whining cuz I said "say hi to long range mages". god damn that was a whine and a half right. btw theres a thing called zhonyas and theres a thing called exhaust and theres a thing called mages having cc.

CaptainAntiHerozSep 7, 20171 votes

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im whining cuz I said "say hi to long range mages". god damn that was a whine and a half right. btw theres a thing called zhonyas and theres a thing called exhaust and theres a thing called mages having cc.

Yeah he's getting in a difficult place, he needs touch ups to make him relevant, not necessarily a complete overhaul, he's kind of in that strange shaco spot where he isn't super strong... But if you aren't prepared you'll get destroyed by him

KhristophorosSep 6, 20171 votes

You could say the same about most bruisers right now. They need to stop making sure Lee is played and remake all the shitty designed bruisers.

ABlueQuakerSep 7, 20171 votes

I'm sure Riot could add some sort of Jungle-specific Passive to his W. It's not like it's good for anything other than Stealth, the occasional juke, and blocking non-pass-through skill shots.

TimX24968BSep 7, 20171 votes

I could tell you someone who hasn't got a legitimate change since season 3, but I don't want to start any more fires about them, for what I fear riot will destroy and make gimmicky.