I can't help but feel helpless when playing against him as an AP user and in teamfights the zoning of his team really makes it easy for him to land his stun. Can he get a nerf? Atleast make his R not scale with his enemy's ap, it's a unique factor but broken as hell especially on someone who can stack 1k ap.
Trídent5 votesI find him balanced. He's very strong low elo, but pretty weak high up. Buy 
and Veigar will be crying forever
He's very strong until you counter him, when you know how to play against him, he's pretty weak.
Athenes Lulu2 votes
roflmao
Trídent2 votesthat too xD
Zarkkast4 votesHis ultimate is completely denied by Zhonya's.
And no, Veigar is not balanced. He's currently too weak. He needs a buff. You just need to learn how to play against him.
Squidsmastah3 votesHe already got a nerf. A very severe nerf to his AP stacking, his ultimate bonus damage, and his total damage and scaling on all his abilities. In fact, I haven't seen a Veigar in like 70 games.
Banana Nations3 votesVeigar is good against AP champs, but he can only take one at a time. Against all other champs outside of very squishy champions he is utterly useless. Also unless he gets ahead he is unable to oneshot people for 40 minutes.
Slythion2 votesYou know Veigar is actually semi-underpowered in this current meta right? Sitting at that solid 44.78% winrate, league of ad assassins have not been kind to him :'(
Very Hard Engage2 votesthe main issue here is that veigar used to be a late game monster like nasus, where nasus would take your objectives while the rest of your team did something else on the map. veigar would join up with the team and kill the enemy team. that was the difference between the two. nasus 2 shots your turrets/inhibs, veigar kills your carries.
nowadays veigar even when fully farmed and beyond a 40minute game he still doesn't one shot people, there is no godly damage to look forward to anymore. he exists as a utility press E as much as possible champion. there is no purpose to farming for 300+ bonus AP when his scalings have all been crippled.
veigar used to be able to blow his full combo and kill a squishy and widely favor any fight. now if anyone builds a single MR item veigar cant do it, no matter how much hes fed and how big he gets, he can not kill someone with 1 MR/hp item no matter what he builds, how late it is, how much hes farmed, making his damage negligable and his sole purpose becomes place the stun let the rest of the team do the work.
thats what killed veigar.
right now, its not veigar winning the game, or anything in particular that you're doing on him, its simply solid team work and good positioning and or punishing the enemy teams bad positioning. tons of other champions just bring more utility and more damage than he does.
Cloud2731 votesNo he's not balanced, even after all these nerfs. He's like a more OP version of Nasus. They both stack one of their abilities and get extra damage. The difference is, Nasus only gets extra damage on one of his moves. Veigar gets extra damage for his entire kit. It's ridiculous.
LoLKiru7 votesNo he's not balanced, even after all these nerfs. He's like a more OP version of Nasus. They both stack one of their abilities and get extra damage. The difference is, Nasus only gets extra damage on one of his moves. Veigar gets extra damage for his entire kit. It's ridiculous.
To be completely fair, the difference is Nasus can get away with building mostly tank items. Veigar still needs to build almost entirely damage.
Cloud2731 votesTo be completely fair, the difference is Nasus can get away with building mostly tank items. Veigar still needs to build almost entirely damage.
Not really. If he builds armor, his damage is going to suffer. Also, Nasus doesn't have infinite mana (unlike Veigar thanks to passive), so he can't just sit in lane forever and afk farm (assuming his opponent lets him of course).
Trídent8 votesinfinite mana (unlike Veigar thanks to passive)
Bruh, his passive barely does anything :P
Cloud2731 votesBruh, his passive barely does anything :P
We are comparing Veigar to Nasus, aren't we? I could be mistaken, but I swear literally 5 minutes ago we were. I'm sure you've played both of these champions at least once. Who runs out of mana first? We all know it's Nasus. Veigar is able to spam his abilities much longer before he goes oom, and is significantly safer than Nasus. Nasus wither won't keep him safe against Master Yi (and other champions with dashes). Master Yi will still ult and kill you, and champions with dashes will still dash/jump on top of you and kill you. When Veigar puts his cage up, no one is able to touch you (except Olaf).
Trídent6 votesYes, I know you were comparing him to Nasus, but Veigar by no means has "infinite mana" that can keep him alive. The "infinite mana" line drawn by his passive is very close to OOM.
Also, while Veigar has a passive that helps him somewhat with mana, the main reason why Veigar's pool lasts longer is because he builds a lot more mana-regen, without it, they would almost be even, as Nasus' mana costs are way below Veigar's. By lasting longer I mean with enough mana to cast all their spells.
However, he can still Q every 6-7 seconds when his pool runs out, but then he'll be a sitting duck to an all-in.
Your statement that no one except Olaf can touch Veigar when he E's is also wrong. Blink champions and unstoppable champions, or champions that dash through his cage fast enough can still murder his face. Ex:
RocketRelm1 votesThat's not necessarily something that's going to happen. Veigar is 'also' like Nasus in that veigy boy has a horrid laning phase. I've been on both sides of the Veigar v Morgana mid matchup, and both when I was the morg and when I was the veig, morgana no-fucks lvl 6 tower dive flash kills veigar. Without ignite.
SirPacifista2 votesDude, are you complaining that Veigar is strong? Veigar is nearly unplayable against any "good" player.
I can not understand that people are still too dumb to play against the current Veigar... Thats like saying Urgot is op, because he can hit you with his q while beeing not in AA range....
ExecutorDill1 votesLike why is this post downvoted? I was asking a valid question. It really angers me how everyone who comments just try to justify how not broken/weak veigar is when he is still troll af. Had I made a dicussion about Twisted Fate they'd all tell me that he does need buffs and I'd get twice the amount of dislikes, why? All because he has a teleport. TF's teleport ain't sht if you lack damage, and you'll lack damage if you can't get good kills while keeping for cs up. Veigar can stun a whole team and at the very least zone people of, he has more teamfight damage since his Q was made into a double hit and his R still fk ap midlaners over, hell it even fks a zed building Maw, Merc Treads and going per lvl mr glyphs that give him a good 120 -145 mr depending on his level.
Trídent3 votesA lot of people on the boards downvote posts they don't agree with, unfortunately. :(
I only downvote troll/aggressive posts :P
It really angers me how everyone who comments just try to justify how not broken/weak veigar is when he is still troll af.
That's your opinion, and you really shouldn't be angered by that........
Cloud2731 votesVeigar is stupid because he punishes you for playing well. Your AP mid managed to cs really well in lane and get a few kills. You buy more items, and he gets more damage. You win lane, Veigar still wins, because he's still able to delete you. It's stupid.
Trídent2 votes
LordBrasca1 votesNerfing a champion that has barely 45% winrate and close to 50% winrate with 120+ games with an horrid pickrate... What could possibly go wrong? If you know how to handle veigar he doesn't have a chance. Also if zed gets killed by veigar with maw and mercuries either he is bronze V and managed to let him go 10/0 in 15 minutes, or either the game lasted until 60 minutes and at that point you deserve to lose against an infinite scaling champion.
The stun you claim to be so much strong has an huge delay with an indicator that shows you where it's going to appear. You can just walk off from it, literally, even without boots... Also that stun doesn't deal damage unlike Annie (and many other champions) which instead of bursting just one person she can go for your entire team in one combo.
Also "it punishes me for doing well" i lost the count of aps mid i was against building ludens first item instead of roa/athene/abyssal which are more than enough to stop his burst mid game... If you are dumb enough to build rabbadon or ludens agaisnt veigar as first item you deserve to be stomped.
Atm i struggle to find a single good streamer playing veigar since he's so "broken" as you claimed him to be, literally almost no one is playing him. If i am mistaken then please tell me the name of that streamer so that i can follow him.
Popstar Ahri1 voteslmfao... this guy is stuck at b5 complaining about veigar....
ExecutorDill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=604s6fLe,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-03-26T15:23:35.262+0000)
lmfao... this guy is stuck at b5 complaining about veigar....
LeoMartin41 votesno he is not it has a bull shit stun that lasts for 5 secs and its in avoidable if u get caught in the bot its very easy to get a 4 man stun in team fights and he can kill them all with is w its not balanced at all but what do u expect from a retarded company like riot games
