@Meddler Naut barely achieves 46% winrate _with_ D Ring stacking, and now you _remove_ that

Zero Skill Tank··4 votes·212 views

I'm all for removing D Ring stacking, but he will need immediate help next patch. That's the only thing that keeps him barely playable (definitely not "viable") after nerfs to manacost and Mid Year Tank Gutting.

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Aptest3 votes

I think it is fair to say RIOT wants naut out of toplane.

fair enough, I say, but support alone is just not good enough.

Make some room for the big guy in the jungle. Buff his clear or his map mobility. or both. Considerably.

Suggestion: dredge line now refunds half it's mana cost if use on terrain.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

I am perfectly fine with him being a support, a jungler or midlane AP assassins as long as he is not well below average in any of those roles.

Right now, he is below viable even as a support.

Aptest2 votes

I think, there are a lot of people who enjoy playing Nautilus, but do not like the role of support much.

Please justify that these people will not have a good way to play nautlus ?

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

IDK about other players. I personally like support Nautilus as much as toplane, but right now he is not very strong even in a good matchup, and he never gets good matchups since almost every meta support counters him. It's a bit stronger than toplane, but still very far from a viable pick.

Aptest1 votes

i don't play him a lot, but why do you say every support counters him ?

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

I didn't say that "every support counters him", but "every meta support counters him". Which just happens to be true at the moment. Most popular supports ATM are Thresh, Lulu, Karma, Janna, Nami and BC, all of which, except for Karma, happen to be very bad matchups. When mage and tank supports were meta, Naut support was weak but acceptable, but Thresh and Enchanters are terrible for Naut.

UnboundHades2 votes

I haven't seen any problems with naut. win rate does mean everything

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

He earns the least gold, kills the least enemies and pushes wave the least out of all toplaners, but I guess those statistics are also meaningless. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Naut is barely playable. That's a fact.

LyingOnLine1 votes

So play him somewhere besides toplane.

Zero Skill Tank3 votes

Except that manacost nerf hit jungle naut even harder - he is literally not played there anymore - and support naut is in a silly state in which he would be just about viable - as a low-tier support, but still - if he wasn't hard countered by virtually every meta support.

King of Demons1 votes

It hasn't even been confirmed yet so don't get your panties in a twist.

They are thinking about it, not 100% definite no more stacking

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

90% of PBE changes get pushed to live, and Nautilus desperately needs buffs even if this change gets pulled.

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