Fine. You want a "gold efficient support item"

Marshbouy·Nov 26, 2016·5 votes·496 views

Don't be annoyed when it get's nerfed repeatedly after it's getting spammed on everyone who even remotely synergizes with its stats. It'll be all over again.

38 Comments

RivuoNov 26, 20164 votes

I think supports get enough gold now and anyone who complains is... idk...

I can tell by the brand support always having more items than me

maybe its because hes 7-0 tho

MarshbouyNov 26, 20164 votes

They get 3 different items that can all hit 200% gold efficiency with ease, and they say it isn't enough. (have you seen my analysis post of support items? I think it's good)

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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I think supports get enough gold now and anyone who complains is... idk...

I can tell by the brand support always having more items than me

maybe its because hes 7-0 tho

/facedesk

Brand is NOT a Support. He's a midlaner muscling on on Support territory because he, like most "control mages", allows you to essentially act as a Support while still getting the benefits of being a bursty AoE mage.

MarshbouyNov 26, 20165 votes

Why facedesk? If he is supporting the team, going bot lane, and buying support items, i think he's supporting?

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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Why facedesk? If he is supporting the team, going bot lane, and buying support items, i think he's supporting?

Because he is not a Support, as I said. Don't base your fukken balance argument when it comes to Supports around Champions that fukken aren't Supports.

Not rocket surgery, really.

MarshbouyNov 26, 20165 votes

What's your definition of a support then?

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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What's your definition of a support then?

Go to the in-game Champion collection.

Tick the "Support" box.

???

Profit!

MarshbouyNov 26, 20162 votes

My head hurts. I need to lay down.

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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My head hurts. I need to lay down.

Good. Then maybe you can make a less idiotic argument when you come back from your nap.

MarshbouyNov 26, 20162 votes

Goodnight Oglaf

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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Woah there, no need to sling insults like that around

Unless you are unnaturally attached to your own argument where you can't tell the difference between attacking it and attacking yourself... [zombie-brand-clap]

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Goodnight Oglaf

Flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

TyrekGoldenspearNov 26, 20165 votes

Ashe is a support?

Woah

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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Ashe is a support?

Woah

The game current lists the following as "true" Supports:

Bard Braum Ivern Janna Lulu Nami Nunu (lol, anyone ever seen him/them Support?) Soraka Sona TahmKench Taric Thresh Zilean

but not

item 3070 Alistar

for whatever reason.

MiraweaveNov 26, 20164 votes

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Go to the in-game Champion collection.

Tick the "Support" box.

???

Profit!

So according to your absurd definition of support, Nunu is a support and Zyra/Leona/Alistar are not?

You need a better definition.

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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So according to your absurd definition of support, Nunu is a support and Zyra/Leona/Alistar are not?

You need a better definition.

It is not my definition.

It is Riot's.

These are the Champs that show up under the Support classification. As you can see above, I don't necessarily agree with things like excluding Alistar, but it is what it is.

Classifying Brand as a Support is as absurd as classifying Quinn as a Juggernaut; just because a Champion can be played in a certain lane/role doesn't change what they are classified as.

RivuoNov 26, 20165 votes

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What's your definition of a support then?

Don't expect a good reply from someone who /facedesks

MarshbouyNov 26, 20162 votes

lmao. I think Oglaf is Akatsuki's twin

RivuoNov 26, 20161 votes

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/facedesk

Brand is NOT a Support. He's a midlaner muscling on on Support territory because he, like most "control mages", allows you to essentially act as a Support while still getting the benefits of being a bursty AoE mage.

It was a joke btw.

But go ahead keep /facedesking

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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It was a joke btw.

But go ahead keep /facedesking

Look at Marshbouy (the original poster).

He clearly thinks otherwise.

D357R0Y3RNov 26, 20163 votes

how about balancing supports around not having items?

Sona x RubickNov 26, 20161 votes

not goanna happen Riot wants the support role to be filled with every kind of champs, that's their goal since they gave gold to supports

If you balance Blitzcrank Braum Bard Alistar Zilean Janna Sona Soraka Thresh Leona Taric around not buying items, then you're just going back to season 2 where supports had insane kits and were scaling terribly in late game. Which made Annie Velkoz impossible to play as a support, Zyra being an exception because she has high base damage and AOE cc stun root and knock up

LadyRenlyNov 26, 20162 votes

Frost Queens Claim wasnt really a support item, it was just Twin Shadows Lite. No surprise mid laners took it

MarshbouyNov 26, 20161 votes

What's your definition of support item then?

LadyRenlyNov 26, 20161 votes

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What's your definition of support item then?

pure combat stats, idk

MarshbouyNov 26, 20161 votes

Pure combat stats? That's what, every item in the game except support items? item 3107 item 3222 are not exactly "pure combat stats"

LadyRenlyNov 27, 20161 votes

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Pure combat stats? That's what, every item in the game except support items? are not exactly "pure combat stats"

None of those give ability power

PennsNov 26, 20161 votes

I think we should just label support mains as "feminazis of League" and move on xd

MarshbouyNov 26, 20161 votes

Woah there, no need to sling insults like that around

PennsNov 26, 20161 votes

Its not really an insult tho..?

MarshbouyNov 26, 20161 votes

Well, calling someone a pile of shit is an insult, so is calling someone a feminazi.

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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Well, calling someone a pile of shit is an insult, so is calling someone a feminazi.

Agree with you there.

PennsNov 26, 20161 votes

But thats not the same. "Feminazi" basically means "feminist that.. went a bit too far and thinks everything and everyone is discriminating women", while ignoring all facts. That just really reminds me of support mains nowadays. Are one of the best classes in the game with a lot of new, really good items, yet still complain about you killing a ward that they sweeped or having to spend 800 gold on a weak item stat wise + infinite wards lol.

Jon1174Nov 26, 20161 votes

Well the issue is there are not enough supports to go around,that's why autofill was put in to try and balance the deficit

(Also as a support main i am NOT a feminazi, i just wish Sightstone was about 200 gold cheaper)

PennsNov 26, 20161 votes

Of course there are nice support mains as well, but I see so many "supports need more xp, supports need more gold, dont complain about a support stealing minion/ward/champion kills, supporting is so hard because everyone rages at you (discriminates you xd), I dont want to build Sightstone :(...."-threads, its kind of getting annoying lol.

Jon1174Nov 26, 20161 votes

Nah my man, I dont mind building sightstone, damn thing just needs to be about 600 gold.

PureSilvrrNov 26, 20161 votes

Yet I somehow get along fine with gold ususally. Its all the supports that are either A. losing the game B. building full ap or full tank with items like item 3089 item 3165 item 3285 item 3065 item 3143 item 3053