Power Shifting/Reworking Nautilus, Wukong and Hecarim to fit in the new jungle better

Kingsgrave··3 votes·626 views

Much like they did to Sejuani for patch 4.21 on the PBE currently

MonkeyKing

Passive: (Reworked)

  • Being in combat with Monsters or Champions gives Wukong Stone Skin, increasing his Armor and Magic Resist by 6/7/8 per target in combat with him stacking up to 5 times. Being in combat is defined as dealing or taking damage within the last 10 seconds.

Q:

  • Crushing Blow CD lowered to 7/6.5/6/5.5/5 seconds at all ranks from 9/8/7/6/5

W:

  • Decoy CD lowered to 10 seconds at all ranks from 18/16/14/12/10
  • Mana cost increased to 80 at all ranks from 50/55/60/65/70
  • Damage increased to 200/225/250/275/300 from 70/115/160/205/250
  • Damage is halved against Champions
  • Decoy now fears Minions and Monsters when it deals damage or Wukong breaks his stealth

E:

  • Nimbus Strike Attack Speed bonus increased to 30/40/50/60/70% for 5 seconds from 30/35/40/45/50% for 4 seconds
  • Mana cost increased to 60 at all ranks from 45/50/55/60/65

Hecarim

Q:

  • Rampage now deals 100% damage to Monsters from 66% damage
  • Mana cost increased to 35 at all ranks from 24/26/28/30/32

W:

  • Healing against Monsters is no longer capped
  • Mana cost lowered to 50 at all ranks from 50/60/70/80/90
  • Cooldown lowered to 18 at all ranks from 22/21/20/19/18
  • Now deals 2/3/4/5/6% of Maximum Health per second from 20/30/40/50/60(+20% AP) per second
  • Hecarim is only healed for the damage he deals while Spirit of Dread is up instead of any damage dealt

E:

  • Cooldown lowered to 16 seconds at all ranks from 24/22/20/18/16

Nautilus

General:

  • Attack Speed increased to .679(+1.3%) from .613(+1%)

W:

  • Mana cost lowered to 50 from 80
  • Nautilus takes 50% reduced damage from all non champion sources while his shield is up
  • Shield Strength increased to 200/225/250/275/300 from 100/150/200/250/300
  • Damage adjusted to 60/70/80/90/100 from 40/55/70/85/100

7 Comments

Kingsgrave1 votes

so just downvotes and no discussion

figures

Fuzzy zombie kit1 votes

Yeah the community is pretty prone to hate positive change.

Quite frankly, it seems like they want the jungle to just be a mix of 5-10 champs they can predict easily.

And they want that so they can be sure and own top tier easily, which is sad.

I agree, all of the above need a slight buff (ESP nautilus, who runs jungle so low health early on that a ww can walk by and casually swipe him at any time for a kill. He needs to be WAY tankier lvl 1)

Lord Dusteon1 votes

Yeah the community is pretty prone to hate positive change.

Quite frankly, it seems like they want the jungle to just be a mix of 5-10 champs they can predict easily.

And they want that so they can be sure and own top tier easily, which is sad.

I agree, all of the above need a slight buff (ESP nautilus, who runs jungle so low health early on that a ww can walk by and casually swipe him at any time for a kill. He needs to be WAY tankier lvl 1)

There is a difference between slight buff and literally quadrupling a shield vs monsters while doubling it vs champions, while buffing all base stats, while buffing all their other abilities except R.

Fuzzy zombie kit1 votes

Sure, but when you consider how poorly nautilus deals with mobs. Your looking at a temporary shield, that will probably help him sustain jungle about 30% better. (since thats its uptime.)

Rather than taking 1 hit. Potentially 2 if you have +armor all over the place. At lvl 1.

Try it, get on naut, pop shield and hit blue buff to see how long that shield lasts.

Kingsgrave1 votes

Yeah the community is pretty prone to hate positive change.

Quite frankly, it seems like they want the jungle to just be a mix of 5-10 champs they can predict easily.

And they want that so they can be sure and own top tier easily, which is sad.

I agree, all of the above need a slight buff (ESP nautilus, who runs jungle so low health early on that a ww can walk by and casually swipe him at any time for a kill. He needs to be WAY tankier lvl 1)

Yeah

Salidfingers1 votes

I do fine on nautilus, Wukong and Hec i feel i back to much

What i would like on naut is to separate the shield and damage on his W to make things ezy.

Kuroi861 votes

Hecarim Q: Definite buff, wouldn't mind. W: Buff against monsters, could be nerf against champs though.

Nautilus Sweet gehena you buffed the heck out of him. I'd be tower diving by level three with those changes.

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