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SEROIUSLY??? You're gutting celerty becuase ADC's are taking it??

SwiftKitten88··6 votes·1,386 views
Daniel Leaver (Riot Rovient) on Twitter

ARE U SERIOUS?

really? so becuase u made a new broken item of item 3095 that gives ADC extra moment speed and abuse it your removing the ONLY effective rune in the sorcery tree? do u honestly expect us AP champs to take "absolute focus" or "transcendence"?

AP champs dont take celerity becuase its "OP" we take it becuase, WE DONT HAVE A FUCKING CHOICE because the OTHER options are WORTHLESS

meanwhile AD not only get 4 keystones in precision and domniation

EVERY SINGLE ROW has MEANINGFUL choices.

as to why am i personally invested in this.

becuase at lvl 1... on my first clear.

nidalee gets 10 AP from celerity. ( her passive gives 30% movement speed toward hunted targets which camps are if she marks them)TEN.. thats is 30 ap.. up from 20 thats PRETTY FUCKING HUGE DIFFERENCE ON YOUR FIRST CLEAR, and its also why celerity is the most important rune for nidalee because without it... she cant clear the jungle.

this rune what allowed her to actually clear the jungle, when runes reforged went live.. when in season 7 after she was gutted, her win-rate dropped to 38% before slowing going back to 44% with minor buffs., celerity is what made her clear viable again, it wasnt the movement speed, its was the 10ap on her first clear, that raised her the +5% back into viability

i am personally invested in this change my main not going to be able to clear the jungle early on.

which is already her weakest point and even champions like Warwick can clear faster than her on her first clear. (WW is my other jungler.. i have timed my routes) this coupled with the fact that, she ALREADY cant really contest scuttle at lvl 2, and will now be even LOWER in hp becuase of extra time its going to take per mob this will lower nids winrate by 2-5%

and yes its an "indriect nerf"

but keep in mind the 6.22 "indirect nerf" which removed strength of the ages and gutted item 3116 took off 10%.. YES TEN PERCENT off her winrate.

this CHANGE IS HIGHLY PREDICTABLE.. AND WILL ABSOLUTELY GUT NIDALEE if it goes live

16 Comments

TehBromato4 votes

No it’s mandatory on ADCs cause they don’t need the alternatives. The alternatives are fine on most other classes though.

Senseless post. Try again.

Lovelle3 votes

Low key Quinn nerf. She scaled better with Celerity than most champions due to her ult. She definitely has other options though, like you mentioned. I miss MS Quints honestly.

Agent Corgi1 votes

If I may make a suggestion, Nimbus Cloak might not be a bad choice since certain marksman can use that burst of speed to their advantage (Vayne Passive gives her movespeed torwards enemies, Nimbus would further increase that movespeed).

There's also some runes in the Domination tree that Marksman can use.

  • Taste of Blood: Get a decent heal on auto attacks every so often.
  • Cheap Shot: Deal a little bit of True Damage on CC'd Opponents.
  • Sudden Impact: Armor Pen/Magic Pen if you have a Stealth or Mobility spell.
  • Ravenous Hunter: Gain Spell Vamp per Stack of this rune.
  • Ghost Poro: with the upcoming nerfs to vision, this one might not be so bad. You also get a Damage increase if the poro goes undisturbed in enemy territory.
saltran1 votes

Wait if they nerf a rune that adcs use that's an indirect ADC nerf right?

SwiftKitten883 votes

{quoted}

Wait if they nerf a rune that adcs use that's an indirect ADC nerf right?

yeah but they could achieve the exact same thing but just nerfing the movement speed bonus on item 3095 .. which wouldn't completely fucking screw over the only decent rune for in that row 90% of mages in the game.. and completely gut it from champions like my main like Nidalee

PumpPenta1 votes

Thanks for nerfing lux movement speed i guess! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Critmaster Garen1 votes

oh no! adc only have one choice of rune in that row of a secondary tree!

meanwhile apparantly 90% of the champions opting into resolve are going to be forced into demolish, because theyre physically incapable of proccing shield bash, and font of life is completely useless for them.

but who gives a shit about those guys, right? adc need options!

hey, lets also give adc even more options by changing overgrowth for them. who cares that the rune gets dumpstered for champions who buy a single health item, and everyone else is forced into unflinching in that row too? its more important that adc have a wide choice of runes available.

SwiftKitten883 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5nkiVAOG,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-11-07T19:24:16.554+0000)

oh no! adc only have one choice of rune in that row of a secondary tree!

meanwhile apparantly 90% of the champions opting into resolve are going to be forced into demolish, because theyre physically incapable of proccing shield bash, and font of life is completely useless for them.

but who gives a shit about those guys, right? adc need options!

hey, lets also give adc even more options by changing overgrowth for them. who cares that the rune gets dumpstered for champions who buy a single health item, and everyone is forced into unflinching in that row too? its more important that adc have a wide choice of runes available.

edit: redacted, apparently its ME who cant read

DO U EVEN READ?

I DONT FUCKING CARE THE ADC'S LOSE IT!!! THEY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM!!!

MAGES AND JUNGLER'S DON'T HAVE OTHER OPTIONS

if they are trying to nerf ADC'S ABUSING it becuase of hOw it interacts with item 3095

THEN FUCKING NERF STORMRAZOR!!!

Critmaster Garen1 votes

{quoted}

DO U EVEN READ?

I DONT FUCKING CARE THE ADC'S LOSE IT!!! THEY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM!!!

i didnt know i needed a sarcasm sign on that post.

im pissed about them doing the same thing in resolve. theyre changing overgrowth around adc (in this case they want to make it better for them) and disregard everyone else whos going into that tree.

90% of the champions who are opting primary into resolve have no choice in that tree anymore. everyone who cant proc shield bash is defaulted to demolish. everyone who buys health is defaulted to unflinching because overgrowth is trashed beyond redemption for them.

where is the rioter who comes and makes sure that our rune choices are freed up?

this is what happens when riot designs a hand full of runes for specific champions, instead of playstiles like they originally promised. some champions have runes that are directly made for their kits and other champions dont have good runes at all because theyre incapable of using them.

SwiftKitten883 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5nkiVAOG,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T19:35:04.036+0000)

i didnt know i needed a sarcasm sign on that post.

im pissed about them doing the same thing in resolve. theyre changing overgrowth around adc (in this case they want to make it better for them) and disregard everyone else whos going into that tree.

90% of the champions who are opting into resolve have no choice in that tree anymore. everyone who cant proc shield bash is defaulted to demolish. everyone who buys health is defaulted to unflinching.

where is the rioter who comes and makes sure that our rune choices are freed up?

i feel slightly ashamed that i said "don't u even read" without fulling spending to time to comprehend what your posting" [sg-lulu]

sorry i yelled at you. i haven't been paying much attention to the "resolve tree" because its so worthless that unless yur a tank u cant even dip into it even if u wanted to build defensive.. and i dont play tanks

saltran1 votes

Wait they nerf a rune that adcs use and that favors adcs somehow?

Sign me in lul

SwiftKitten883 votes

{quoted}

Wait they nerf a rune that adcs use and that favors adcs somehow?

Sign me in lul

its not that, its riot is doing change "X" to fix "Y" when change X is also going to ruin "A-L" when they could just make change "Z" and fix the issue without effecting other things.

its like you get a splinter and the nurse amputates your whole freaking arm. yeah the splinter needed to be removed, but dont u think you could have use it WITHOUT ruining as many thing as u just did.

if item 3095 break "celerity" for "ADC's" THEN FUCKING ADdRESS STORMRAZOR.

there are about iudk.. 50 other champsion that AREN'T ADC's that USE celerity becuase its the ONLY decent option... and about 5 more because its CORE.

also... its fall

i dont need to play league.. there are a TON of other games i can play that are releasing or have just released.. if they ruin my main AGAIN.

i dont need to deal with it, i can take my $ elsewhere

Mr Bob Boberson1 votes

I mean they still have the option of boneplating since riot decided to keep that and replace chrysalis with it

Critmaster Garen1 votes

{quoted}

I mean they still have the option of boneplating since riot decided to keep that and replace chrysalis with it

boneplating and currently chrysalis are in a different row.

r2 is: demolish, font of life, shield bash.

only demolish is useful for almost the entire champion group that opts into resolve. shield bash and font of life are useful on a combined 3 or 4 champions or so.

r4 is: unflinching, revitalize, overgrowth

only unflinching is equally good on everyone. overgrowth was entirely dumpstered, and revitalize is good on 2 champions maybe?

the result is that almost everyone who opts into resolve is forced into demolish and unflinching. there are no choices in that tree anymore.

Pillar Of SaIt1 votes

It's all but madatory for ADCs to take celerity

It's also all but mandatory for junglers to take waterwalking and celerity if they ever want to contest crabs

WindLord70701 votes

Nidalee does not need celerity to clear the jungle.....Many nidalee mains don't even use it now.

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