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Morde is Fundamentally Broken, and Riot will not be able to balance him with his current kit

BeatinWarDrumz·6/13/2019, 7:48:57 PM·23 votes·14,264 views

In general, I think people who say a champion is "broken" are wrong, because I think a champion can maintain their kit and still be balanced. Tahm kench, for instance, is overtuned right now because he can outduel too many top laners, but there's nothing conceptually wrong with his kit, at least in my opinion. However, I think morde is different. This is because so long as he maintains his gameplay identity as a juggernaut with his current ultimate, he becomes simply too hard to beat, even conceptually. The point of a juggernaut is that they can beat you to death if you stand next to them, but have a harder time getting close to you - Riot could nerf morde's numbers to the point where he couldn't beat other melee's in straight 1v1s, but I think he would no longer be a juggernaut in that case. When you combine this dueling potential which is usually gated by being hard to capitalize upon with morde's ult, which literally forces a duel with an enemy champion (including a ranged one, who would usually be able to kite you)... what do you do?

81 Comments

SuicidePlank6/13/2019, 7:49:35 PM16 votes

No, he isn't, people just love running heads on into Juggernauts and expecting to win.

Ritrozark6/13/2019, 8:16:23 PM13 votes

Honestly I think his kit is really good, just the numbers are to high. People complain about his passive but it is literally just his old W except it does more damage, and even then he dumpster people in melee range (I liked taking him mid against assassins and just murdering them whenever they tried to do anything.) His overpowered nature right now is simply to high numbers.

SeaWeaboo6/13/2019, 9:12:05 PM7 votes

He has been out for like 2 days now on live. Just wait and see how things go. We have had almost zero time to adjust to his kit and he is fairly easy to pick up and play. Just remember what happened with yuumi.

Sir Saltarin6/13/2019, 9:24:47 PM6 votes

Morde is Fundamentally Broken, and Riot will not be able to balance him with his current kit

Nah, just some number nerfs and he'll be fine

IkBenShteen6/13/2019, 9:27:17 PM5 votes

I think Morde is one of those champs that should have his current setup, with decent numbers. He's been all around the place, going from top, to mid, to adc, to support, and I've had him as a jungler against me a few games ago.

His kit isn't too much. It's made so he can actually do something. I just pick tahm into it, as I do with any other matchup, be it bruiser or jugg. This way he's inept.

Dromar4216/13/2019, 8:01:53 PM4 votes

Qss helps with the ult debuff. But the whole running heads first into him has a counter argument, Singed running away from him and still doing no dmg, if you get caught by his e its grey screen heaven, to be honest no champ in a moba should be able to stop interactions with other champs and mord at this point is one of those champs. You cant duel him, you can barely do dmg to him and he makes farming a nightmare because if he procs his passive he can stand in a wave and use his passive to farm and he has no cds so if you go in to farm just know all his spells are off cd and there is a 98% chance he is going to kick the shit out of you if you dont pop the flash away. Did I say you better hope he used his before you try that move?

KronosCCR6/19/2019, 12:03:51 AM3 votes

Mordekaiser is so blatantly broken. He has great wave clear, is tanky, out pokes poke champions, has a pull with insane range, (Its dodgeable but its still annoying) An AOE passive, an AOE Q, and IMO is R is a cool concept that is fine as it is. But he is a lane bully that beats out other lane bullies and scales well into late game. He does all of this while being one of the best picks in top and mid.

Kala MNK6/20/2019, 11:35:56 AM2 votes

Morder is plain stupid broken, Riot recognized it, and they will nerf him, and probably won't be enough. Just ban Morder while you can. I won games against him and though I'm not a top laner he can be a nightmare to play against.

RainbowIcee6/14/2019, 12:55:27 AM2 votes

I feel the huge problem is his range with 0 penalty. He can't can't really spam but he has no mana limit. Normally a champion with such range + width would have penalties such as the dmg decreases by how many enemies hit and what not. His grab is pretty damn long for a melee champ, and the width is huge Add that to having to move around minions and it's near impossible to dodge. He also himself doesn't need to be in melee range to dmg as his bread and butter attack is also ranged. Lastly the ult cages you AT RANGE. I feel normally this type of champion would have penalties for those things but he currently has none. His weakness is being poked and kited but unless you are long ranged not mid ranged, LONG ranged you're in danger of his kit. Which does a ton of dmg.

235shaun6/14/2019, 8:21:24 AM2 votes

The thing about mordes ult is that it can be cleansed and thay provides some really hard counters people who beat him 1v1 and those with cleanses mean that thr only Reason you lose to him specifically because of his ult is because you choose the wrong champion

Hvsao6/14/2019, 1:37:20 PM2 votes

If you complain about Morde's grab, you've clearly not been introduced to the idea of side stepping because that grab takes an eternity in its animation. You dont even need a dash, just perpendicular to the ability and it almost never hits. IF you have a dash, that's even better.

Reverent Wrath6/16/2019, 9:35:20 PM2 votes

You can't run from him. You can't gank him. As soon as a gank shows up he just ults and voila, instant 1v1 and no more advantage. Its the stupidest thing since yasuo's overloaded kit.