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Penns2 votes

Still Caitlyn ? also Maokai

Ahristocats1 votes

mao is picked due to cinderhulk massive buff

and yes, in case you don't realise in 7.14 cait has 89% pick/ban rate and she isn't nerfed in 7.15

Penns1 votes

hm didnt expect that, she lost like more than a item 1043 at level 13

Ahristocats1 votes

her sieging strength is honestly too strong, and pros know how to use it

Spârky1 votes

I agree with everything except your mid laners. Ori syndra and tali are a result of nerfing all the people that were above them/their counters.

Ahristocats2 votes

so in order to have more diversity in the midlane in competition

you will buff: other mages some assassins like zed who is picked 4 times (same for talon) some ap assassins like fizz

?

yea no, i think nerfing 3 champs is easier to get diversity

Penns1 votes

some ap assassins like fizz

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Joxcab1 votes

Taliyah

LOL

UnboundHades1 votes

JUST NERF FROZEN MALLET AND LEAVE GNAR ALONE

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Rework*. Literally only gnar and yasuo build it at a consistent point just to break the item.

UnboundHades1 votes

gnar isnt a broken champ he does exactly what hes suppose to and he has his counters but frozen mallet just makes him a no fun champ along with lowering his skill ceiling so far down thats why i never build it on him

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

I never said gnar was, frozen mallet just doesn't work as an item since it's even more exclusive to 2 champions than spell vamp was. And the difference in power it gives is too different between yasuo/gnar using it and anyone else using it. Frozen mallet needs a rework.

UnboundHades1 votes

or removed

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Nah frozen mallet is unique enough to stay as an item, just needs a slight rework.

LyingOnLine1 votes

Upvoted for stoneplate, gnar, and syndra.

Double downvoted for everything else.

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

Leave Jayce alone SMOrc

Wet Dryman1 votes

Where's Grag on that list (his ult nerf isn't a nerf at all).

Ahristocats1 votes

cinderhulk

yes, gragas in competition does not build runic echo

Wet Dryman1 votes

Huh, didn't notice. Do you know what happened? Before MSI most of Gragas Jungle builds consisted of Runic Echo rush from what I've seen.

Ahristocats1 votes

cinderhulk got massively buffed

Wet Dryman1 votes

So Cindehulk nerf won't mean much, Gragas will just switch back to Runic Echoes and still maintain similar pick/ban status as before. They just need to hit him directly, his tankiness or maybe base damage of E or W.

Ahristocats1 votes

in no way gragas was as much pick/ban as now

months ago lee elise and zac dominated the jungle, gragas was picked but wasn't top tier

ReySolomon1 votes

let's just nerf all the champions so everybody can be happy yeah?

Clayblob21 votes

OOW MY GOD NOOO. OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE, DO YOU REALIZE THESE THINGS YOU WANT NERFED ARE THOSE CHAMPS MAINE SOURCE OF DEFENCE?

THE ONLY THING THE NEEDS TO NERFED IS JAYCE'S BLAST SCALING

ZephyrDrake1 votes

so nerf cinderhulk instead of the few champions that make it too strong and revert back to what we had before? wow such diversity

The only way you will get rid of Cait in competitive is to literally gut her to the point she is not even a champion anymore. She doesn't need more nerfs, hell she isn't the strongest ADC atm.

jayce... why? why would they bother nerfing Jayce? Same with Gnar, why would they bother nerfing him?

Tresh is already being looked at and i doubt they will nerf him too much if they decide to nerf him.

Syndra... once again why? they can nerf her but her killing you is what she is supposed to do.

Orianna might get her early game a bit weaker but that's about it as far as nerfs are concerned.

Taliyah is not going to get banned, she isn't oppressive in any way. Maybe they lower her wave clear ever so slightly but that's about it.

Kalista is not going to be nerfed. She is picked mainly because she let's aggressive supports actually do their job without worrying that they will blow up if they mess up. If this is a "nerf these champions for the sake of more variety!" then this won't bring more variety to the game but take away variety.

Elise is being nerfed. She is meant to be a strong early game champion. They are not going to remove that part of her

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