"Wtf no mia mid"

USG Failsawce··43 votes·2,696 views

When your teammates can visually see your lane opponent on their actual screen already, not even just their map, and they then decide themselves to engage said lane opponent and die to them.

Then spend the next 5 minutes spamming pinging (your character) alive, calling you a retard and a child who can't ping, and asking the enemy chat to "report you for toxic".

What in gods name is wrong with this community?

53 Comments

P0IS0N IVY34 votes

My favorite is when MIA was pinged and they still rage at you for not telling them.

Tails90168 votes

"No MIA???"

me: "Press Z"

Entire chat is me pinging MIA

Need Gold 4 Tent7 votes

Do you not know MIA pings stand for "Holy shit, you're fucking noob" rather than "Enemy is missing"?

Tails90162 votes

Ah mb, got caught up in "every bronze deserves challenjour", and forgot that I'm still bronze

DeadUnborn3 votes

well the problem is people spam pings, so one becomes desensitized to them. You aren't supposed to just ping mia on your lane. Rather ping MIA and then ping retreat danger on the lane that is getting ganked. That is the proper way to do it

Fairyfleur1 votes

It isn’t your fault at all but they’ll notice the MIA more often if you’re spamming their lane with the “?” pings along with “X Midlaner - Alive”

P0IS0N IVY6 votes

After they get mad at me the first time when I do my normal MIA pings, I make a point to only ping it once from that point forward just so I can say I still pinged.

Regardless of what role and where you are, it is everyone's job to have map awareness.

50000000000000001 votes

I'm not gonna say it's your fault for not pinging in their face, but that will definitely help a lot. Ping mia in lane, river, and caution ping on the side lane. It's more effective than spam pinging.

P0IS0N IVY2 votes

The average player is going to acknowledge a ping if you spam it a few times regardless of where. You don't necessarily know which way the laner went and I personally dislike it when I get spam pinged to back off in bot lane when we are in a perfectly fine spot with things warded. A few pings is fine, regardless of where and I'm pretty that goes for the majority of the population with common sense. The OP is referring to people who are simply idiots and whose questionable actions don't just stop at being unable to recognize pings.

SangreDeNoche1 votes

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My favorite is when MIA was pinged and they still rage at you for not telling them.

I've maxed out pings doing it before and they still told me I never did it. I'm like LOOK, IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN CHAT!!!!

ViciousSummoner15 votes

But did you MIA tho? That's the real question.

Dorans Pants7 votes

first, i get mad at the midlaner and check if he at least pinged mia.

then i get mad at myself since i should have watched the mini map anyway.

Death by Glamour6 votes

Sorry but im triggered

"Visually see you"

Arghh

Recon12124 votes

The best thing is when someone doesn't ping and instead of being a dick, you say, "hey next time do you think you can mia ping pls" and you get flamed cause you didn't look at your minimap while you were fighting...

on the topic of that can someone explain to me why some jgs refuse to ping they are coming and just assume the laner will be looking at their minimap and see them coming. Doesn't make any sense to jeopardize the gank for something as menial as a quick key press with a flick of the wrist.

Kanzler1 votes

Idk, i ping that I am coming every time and the lanes still refuse to not only engage, but even follow up half the time.

General Esdeath 3 votes

When you ping danger on them and they still spam "no mia"[darius-angry]

BestPudgeNA3 votes

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When your teammates can visually see your lane opponent on their actual screen already, not even just their map, and they then decide themselves to engage said lane opponent and die to them.

Then spend the next 5 minutes spamming pinging (your character) alive, calling you a retard and a child who can't ping, and asking the enemy chat to "report you for toxic".

What in gods name is wrong with this community?

It's your job to not let your lane be shoved in and allow your opposing laner too roam. If you aren't matching his roam or getting lots of turret damage in you're doing it wrong.

Stop blaming your team for your mistakes.

Automated Riven3 votes

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It's your job to not let your lane be shoved in and allow your opposing laner too roam. If you aren't matching his roam or getting lots of turret damage in you're doing it wrong.

Stop blaming your team for your mistakes.

Someone hasn't played a against a decent Taliyah or asol on a low wave clear mid champ. Those fuckers hit bot like 4 seconds after they leave lane.

Venomar2 votes

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Someone hasn't played a against a decent Taliyah or asol on a low wave clear mid champ. Those fuckers hit bot like 4 seconds after they leave lane.

Yea but that's to be expected that they roam fast, hard and often, they're balanced around those strengths. Doesn't mean you can just sit in mid and not do anything about it. Go top side, invade with your jungler. Roam to clean up. You can always punish any decision being made by the enemy if you're proactive about it. Even if it may not be a game changing punishment, you can do something bigger than just shove and deny XP. Even if you just reset the wave and follow up, you're both missing XP and it's frozen, and if you get halfway and its been decided, you can dip back into lane and still get back to lane a lot sooner to make them miss more XP. If you get halfway and realize you can turn the fight, well you'll never know if you just shove ways and /shrug "???" just becuase it's taliyah or asol.

Automated Riven2 votes

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Yea but that's to be expected that they roam fast, hard and often, they're balanced around those strengths. Doesn't mean you can just sit in mid and not do anything about it. Go top side, invade with your jungler. Roam to clean up. You can always punish any decision being made by the enemy if you're proactive about it. Even if it may not be a game changing punishment, you can do something bigger than just shove and deny XP. Even if you just reset the wave and follow up, you're both missing XP and it's frozen, and if you get halfway and its been decided, you can dip back into lane and still get back to lane a lot sooner to make them miss more XP. If you get halfway and realize you can turn the fight, well you'll never know if you just shove ways and /shrug "???" just becuase it's taliyah or asol.

Ya there are descisions you can do, but its not your fault that champions like that are roaming. There is a reason they are a roaming. Bestpudgena said that if they roamed it was your mistake. Which is just wrong if your playing something like annie or anyone without reliable waveclear early. I was playing a game vs asol the other day and I was perma shoved in and I never really had a chance to roam to follow or roam elsewhere because by the time i got the lane stabalized he was already back to lane. Thankfully I was in a call with the botlane and we communicated and stabalized the game. But threre isnt really anything you can do to stop them from roaming if you simply dont have waveclear.

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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Someone hasn't played a against a decent Taliyah or asol on a low wave clear mid champ. Those fuckers hit bot like 4 seconds after they leave lane.

Asol sure, Taliyah not since like 15 patches ago when they nerfed her base damages. Doesn't excuse it happening with the other 48 or so mid lane champs. Playing against at team with 2 Junglers cause you're mid lane is garbage isn't fun and so many mids will be like "WTF i pinged, MIA when Fizz roamed bot for the 5th times in 10 mins. " It's like bitch he souldn't be pushing and you shouldn't be freezing the wave/recalling at 100% when he does shove you in and roam.

Automated Riven1 votes

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Asol sure, Taliyah not since like 15 patches ago when they nerfed her base damages. Doesn't excuse it happening with the other 48 or so mid lane champs. Playing against at team with 2 Junglers cause you're mid lane is garbage isn't fun and so many mids will be like "WTF i pinged, MIA when Fizz roamed bot for the 5th times in 10 mins. " It's like bitch he souldn't be pushing and you shouldn't be freezing the wave/recalling at 100% when he does shove you in and roam.

Fizz can definitely have push pressure if he has kill pressure. Or if his opponent just backed or the jungle was near mid. There are tons of reasons that enable midlanders to roam. Your ignoring a ton of them. There are also a ton of other champs that can shove and roam with little counterplay. They just don't hit bot as fast. To blame mid because the opponent is roaming is at best ignorant.

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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Fizz can definitely have push pressure if he has kill pressure. Or if his opponent just backed or the jungle was near mid. There are tons of reasons that enable midlanders to roam. Your ignoring a ton of them. There are also a ton of other champs that can shove and roam with little counterplay. They just don't hit bot as fast. To blame mid because the opponent is roaming is at best ignorant.

No, i'm not. You're ignore what i'm saying. Mid laners ping MIA and expect that to be enough, it simple isn't and pinging MIA doesn't mean you can play your lane like shit and not be pushing or match roams and recalling at 100 with your lane MIA ECT.

Automated Riven1 votes

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No, i'm not. You're ignore what i'm saying.

Im not. If you feel I am I am simply not understanding.

Mid laners ping MIA and expect that to be enough, it simple isn't and pinging MIA doesn't mean you can play your lane like shit and not be pushing or match roams and recalling at 100 with your lane MIA ECT.

All of this, while true has nothing to do with the original comment I replied to. Your stating now that if the enemy roams then you have to react appropriately where I started this conversation disagreeing with the premise that if the opponent roams its your fault and you played badly. There are simply situations where you cannot control whether or not your opponent roams or not. Yes there are things you can be doing if they do roam (ward, shove, ward, chip damage, on specific champions only shove quick and follow) but that has nothing to do with my original response. I find it rude that your tried to change the parameters of the discussion without letting me know and then argue that I am wrong when you changed the discussion.

What I have been talking about was your claim that it's mids job to stop the opposing laner from roaming. Not that there were things they should ve doing if the mid did roam.

1eone11 votes

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Someone hasn't played a against a decent Taliyah or asol on a low wave clear mid champ. Those fuckers hit bot like 4 seconds after they leave lane.

hes right btw also how tf are you going to get shat on so hard that they just roam on you like that?

Automated Riven1 votes

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hes right btw also how tf are you going to get shat on so hard that they just roam on you like that?

Getting 'shat' on and getting shoved in are two different things. Try playing Annie Akali Zoe Viktor (before upgrades)Ezreal Lucian Lux

Into azir/ryze/asol/Taliyah and see how long you spend outside of your tower. Then factor in things like jungle pressure, recall timing better/worse wave management, mana pools, HP levels, harass patterns and range, and so on. There are a shit ton of reasons you could be shoved in or even want to be shoved in if your playing the lane correctly. To assume that Akali should be able to wave clear vs an Aurelian Sol at any time in the game is ignorant at best. Ffs most mids can't even do that. So stop with the hyperbole and bullshit arguments.

If your correct then in pro play the wave would never deviate from the middle of the lane and the game would be boring as fuck to play. If, however, you do get shoved in, then you should ping, shove back, ward up the jungle or gank routes and try to get a preferential back while you can.

The completely ignorant and stupid argument that you can control if your opponent roams is bullshit.

None of this even touches on the fact that the opponent can make a mistake and roam at bad times. Where your shoved it to his tower when he shows botlane. Or the wave is set in your favor and you can follow. You literally cannot stop your opponent from roaming and as such it's not your fault. All you can do is try to punish the decision.

1eone11 votes

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Getting 'shat' on and getting shoved in are two different things. Try playing Annie Akali Zoe Viktor (before upgrades)Ezreal Lucian Lux

Into azir/ryze/asol/Taliyah and see how long you spend outside of your tower. Then factor in things like jungle pressure, recall timing better/worse wave management, mana pools, HP levels, harass patterns and range, and so on. There are a shit ton of reasons you could be shoved in or even want to be shoved in if your playing the lane correctly. To assume that Akali should be able to wave clear vs an Aurelian Sol at any time in the game is ignorant at best. Ffs most mids can't even do that. So stop with the hyperbole and bullshit arguments.

If your correct then in pro play the wave would never deviate from the middle of the lane and the game would be boring as fuck to play. If, however, you do get shoved in, then you should ping, shove back, ward up the jungle or gank routes and try to get a preferential back while you can.

The completely ignorant and stupid argument that you can control if your opponent roams is bullshit.

None of this even touches on the fact that the opponent can make a mistake and roam at bad times. Where your shoved it to his tower when he shows botlane. Or the wave is set in your favor and you can follow. You literally cannot stop your opponent from roaming and as such it's not your fault. All you can do is try to punish the decision.

item 2403 if youre really so bad and cant just counter push i mean its not that hard at your level but still.

Automated Riven1 votes

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item 2403 if youre really so bad and cant just counter push i mean its not that hard at your level but still.

Counter pushing doesn't stop roaming. It just reacts to it.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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It's your job to not let your lane be shoved in and allow your opposing laner too roam. If you aren't matching his roam or getting lots of turret damage in you're doing it wrong.

Stop blaming your team for your mistakes.

No it's not some champions shove harder than others.

MagicalDemons2 votes

welcome to league of legends

RainXBlade2 votes

When your teammates can visually see your lane opponent on their actual screen already, not even just their map, and they then decide themselves to engage said lane opponent and die to them.

This! As a mid lane main, I encounter this issue so much it hurts.

zZ KanKuro Zz2 votes

My favorite thing is when they buy a control ward the enemy jungle sits there 30 seconds without realizing the ward and they still die to that gank.

Malix Farwin2 votes

How it goes for me:

i ping multiple times bot ignores and dies bot "wtf mid why no mia" me: "i did" bot "why did you follow" me: "at base?"

Its All Skillzz2 votes

Ahir walks past 2 control wards and 3 reg wards and ganks bot lane. "wtf no mia or wards to let us know" lol ok.

1eone11 votes

This is wrong 100% wrong if you allow your lane to roam like that its your fault ill probably get downvoted for this bc this happens all the time some random moron doesn't know how to play mid and they just spam mia or danger or missing without doing anything about their opponent leaving lane and just flame when their top or jg or bot or w/e die. however what i also see is when they pretend to back and then actually roam then thats just a good play on their part and you got out played. thats all there is to it. Learn to lane better i dound your s7 rank and it was silver soo theres that.

INoble KnightI5 votes

hey look my enemy left so Im gonna push hard as fuck.

Divewing2 votes

Can you be my lane opponent every game?

I love fake roaming bot then punishing idiots who follow a Talon into Fog of War with no vision

1eone11 votes

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Can you be my lane opponent every game?

I love fake roaming bot then punishing idiots who follow a Talon into Fog of War with no vision

fake roaming bot lol its kinda obvs if youre going to try that on any one its no like i cant just push and then roam also i ward the bush above red and river so it wouldnt work on me bc i dont have and iq of 90 and can acutlly play the game right

Automated Riven1 votes

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Can you be my lane opponent every game?

I love fake roaming bot then punishing idiots who follow a Talon into Fog of War with no vision

River wards completely ruin that. Plus you dont follow roams of assassins as a general rule for that reason. Unless your a tf or something and can tp.

Alderscroft1 votes

I get the same thing in top lane all the time.. I've gotten flamed for not pinging the enemy jungler was missing when they didn't even show top the whole game [sg-janna]

kurnubego1 votes

It's generally better for you to ping missing and when also draw a line of pings based on last seen movement direction of your opponent. Sure, the blame is on the player not being attentive to mini-map. But if you care about winning yourself you should really use pings, you know gonna win more games. Although as many other things you're not obliged to do so. You don't have to ward either, after all. Although there are benefits if you do. :)

Charm With parm1 votes

My laner went mia once and i pinged mia, and the laner ganked bot lane and killed them, and my bot lane was like: "mia mid??" and i told them that i did ping it, and they scrolled up to see it and then said "wtf you only pinged it once how am i supposed to notice that??"

......

USG Failsawce1 votes

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My laner went mia once and i pinged mia, and the laner ganked bot lane and killed them, and my bot lane was like: "mia mid??" and i told them that i did ping it, and they scrolled up to see it and then said "wtf you only pinged it once how am i supposed to notice that??"

......

I would probably have smashed my skull on concrete after that one. People like that really make me wish we didn't share the same gene pool.

Crede7771 votes

I ping MIA. 20 seconds later "WTF NO MIA MID?!" Me: I did, see chat 10:21.

Oxyrotten1 votes

MIA's are just an excuse for bads not to have to watch their minimap.

You can only count on MIA calls in premades. If your solo que just watch your damn map and stop being so reliant on other people for things you can do yourself.

USG Failsawce1 votes

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MIA's are just an excuse for bads not to have to watch their minimap.

You can only count on MIA calls in premades. If your solo que just watch your damn map and stop being so reliant on other people for things you can do yourself.

I think MIA are very necessary, and someone who doesn't use them is simply lazy as hell or doesn't pay enough attention.

But in this case #1 I did MIA several times that game before my teammates died (until they started flaming and then I stopped bothering), and #2 they actually already saw them already, in most cases for several whole minutes, before following/engaging them, so yes, they are flat out bad and toxic ragers.

Oxyrotten1 votes

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I think MIA are very necessary, and someone who doesn't use them is simply lazy as hell or doesn't pay enough attention.

But in this case #1 I did MIA several times that game before my teammates died (until they started flaming and then I stopped bothering), and #2 they actually already saw them already, in most cases for several whole minutes, before following/engaging them, so yes, they are flat out bad and toxic ragers.

So two things. First you can think all you want but that doesn't change the facts. Riot has gone to great lengths to make this game idiot proof, you can even just press a single key yourself and the game literally tells you who on their team is mia... Second, it's still no excuse for not watching your map.

It's been a month so I don't remember the case study in the OP, but likely they were just bad players and should be ignored.

USG Failsawce1 votes

The worst part is, this infantile flaming session started out with my jungler, kayn, coming to my lane to chase the zilean, who I engaged and got to about 40% and backed off... zilean speed boosts away towards top and kayn follows him, loses him, then dies to him from a bush about 8 seconds later "WTF NO MIA PING!!!". spams my lane with mia pings and ezreal (me) alive.

"you literally SAW him leave lane because you were physically in it yourself and followed him out of it..." to which aatrox starts flaming me too "%%%%%, even a child can press mia ping one fucking time". why? he already knew where he was, cus he FOLLOWED HIM..... then aatrox comes to river and sees the zilean there, jumps on top of him, and dies. "report this toxic ez please".

Next it's bot lane, and keep in mind by this point kayn is 0-7, aatrox is like 0-5, bot lanes feeding too. I have literally the only kills (3) on the entire team and no deaths. both bot, the jg, and zilean are hanging around bot lane for roughly 3 full minutes before they decide to dive our turret hugging bot.

janna: "fucking retarded ez cant even ping, fuck this asshole retard" aatrox: "we lost cus of ez, report him for toxic" kayn: i wouldn't have even died if it wasn't for you..." zilean has 2 kills... kayn has 5 deaths at this point, 2 of which he lost before even zilean roamed (invading enemy jg and dying)... same with aatrox.

Can I just quit being a part of humanity already please?

ReySolomon1 votes

My plat games

I spam MIA mid

Support sees it and pings Draven to back but continues to push.

Talon has slain Draven

Draven WHY DIDNT U FOLLOW ? trash mid ggwp.

Me/Support ??????

Rinse and repeat.

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