When you beware ping botlane 18x and they still both die to the warded midlane roam...

USG Failsawce·Nov 20, 2017·93 votes·3,981 views

Then proceed to flame you for the entire rest of the game for "not following your laner" as a level 3 Viktor, vs the level 3 JAYCE.

No, no, you're right. It was positively asinine of me to assume that you understood what beware ping spam and mia ping spam meant. And so I'll walk into the nearest bush where he can 100-0 my squishy, non-mobile mage in less than 2 seconds, that would take me 3 hours to duel with at this point.

"Useless mid" "can't even follow lane" "Viktor should be able to 1v1 a LEVEL 3 FUCKING JAYCE" "lost lane to a jayce, what a joke"

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

65 Comments

MetalGearTeemoNov 20, 201745 votes

OMG VIEGAR WHY YOU NO FOLLOW ZED BOT.

... Bruh...

Bruuuuh.

RavenMagusNov 21, 20175 votes

this

so many this

you have no idea how many times I've been flamed for not following my Kat/Fizz/Zed/Akali/Talon opponent when they roamed.

I pinged it for you and pushed; that's the most I can do. If I follow, they wait in a bush and I'm a free kill.

muted team chatNov 21, 20172 votes

People really underestimate the value of baiting mid to bot lane and making them lose a lane and 20-50% of their tower's HP. I'd say it's on par with a kill.

FraCroNov 21, 20171 votes

i have better one. lvl 3 nida mid roam bot and sited in bush like 2 mins on ward just using q to let them farm a bit. then out of f nowhere 'GG report bot for not pinging nida missing'.... like realy dude ? nida was mid lane not bot.... all river warded and bright as day and ori still didn't saw her coming and dieing nida lvl 4,ori lvl 6...

Zed geniusNov 20, 201723 votes

i love the "LMFAO THIS NOOB YASUO DIDN'T FOLLOW LEVEL 6 TF IM AFK" from my botlane :^ ) srsly though, do people in bot have any idea of how mid lane works? When you are pushed in you don't ignore the wave to run down bot to save your bot lane from inting it

FOR JUSTICENov 20, 20172 votes

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i love the "LMFAO THIS NOOB YASUO DIDN'T FOLLOW LEVEL 6 TF IM AFK" from my botlane :^ ) srsly though, do people in bot have any idea of how mid lane works? When you are pushed in you can't ignore the wave to run down bot to save your bot lane from inting it

LOL FTFY what you said implies I have a choice XD

BobaFlautistNov 20, 20171 votes

Though, to be fair, it's frustrating when mid ints their face off and doesn't give the courtesy warning that TF is level 6a minute ahead of schedule.

Not saying you did that, but it's frustrating to have a TF teleport behind you when you're trying to all-in and secure your advantage level 4.

Brain Errör 404Nov 21, 20171 votes

It's also frustrating when you ping the second TF hits 6 AND when he leaves lane and your laners still play like bonobos and get killed. It's funny, cuz when I play TF 90% of the time enemy team never plays aggro once I hit 6. But if it's a TF on the other team... sigh

BobaFlautistNov 21, 20171 votes

Yeah I hear you, I've been that mid plenty of times too. Just venting about something that happened recently.

Dasdi96Nov 20, 201710 votes

This is a typical botlane’s sense of entitlement and think they deserve higher priority than other lanes.

Truly PridefulNov 20, 20179 votes

The best part is when you ward it, ping it multiple times, AND they even have the river warded and see it then proceed to blame you. Sometimes people ignore their map so badly that it's actually baffling. I play support as well as mid and I can't understand how it's so hard to pay attention to the map when you're playing botlane. As long as you're shoving when the mid roams you should come out ahead as long as bot doesn't stupidly die.

USG FailsawceNov 20, 20173 votes

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The best part is when you ward it, ping it multiple times, AND they even have the river warded and see it then proceed to blame you. Sometimes people ignore their map so badly that it's actually baffling. I play support as well as mid and I can't understand how it's so hard to pay attention to the map when you're playing botlane. As long as you're shoving when the mid roams you should come out ahead as long as bot doesn't stupidly die.

Yep, that's precisely what happened. I had River bush warded, they had tri bush warded... Jayce walked right into tri and killed them from behind. Took all of 6-7 seconds for him to get to them while in vision and they didn't show a shred of knowledge that he was even there, and instead proceeded to ENGAGE the enemy bot. Despite my very very early and ample warning.

Then somehow ACTUALLY blamed me for their deaths. Hence the facepalm.

Nami Want SalamiNov 21, 20178 votes

Lux : spam pings mia Lux : Zed coming bot guys Zed Double Kill Vayne : spam pings mia mid Vayne : gg noob mid

Søn oƒ EchidnæNov 22, 20171 votes

Precisely

Violent HunterNov 20, 20177 votes

Then push your lane and either take turret or follow. If you got time to type after they die you ahd time to pushing your lane and make a play yourself. Don't like what they have to say after MUTE! THEM! not that hard.

USG FailsawceNov 20, 201737 votes

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Then push your lane and either take turret or follow. If you got time to type after they die you ahd time to pushing your lane and make a play yourself. Don't like what they have to say after MUTE! THEM! not that hard.

Is this really the logic you expect mid laners to follow, after such an oh so common occurrence?

How am I supposed to take mid turret at level fucking 3? I can barely shove the waves into the turret before he kills them and gets back. Even on Viktor.
My laner is now 2-0, as Jayce and I'm still at 0-0. Yes I should completely ignore that fact and carry on like nothing ever happened.
Doesn't change the fact that bot lane is now blaming me at every corner, which effects everyones gameplay, whether I have them muted or not.
What exactly makes you think I stopped to type out 3 pages worth of text after they died? Or even as much as 3 words?

Believe me dude, I'd love to magically wipe their toxicity out of the match by simply willing it to happen. And believe me I'd love to grow 400 AP and a bunch of attack speed completely the fuck out of my ass, to take a turret at level 3. But I'm afraid to say that in the real world, both of those things are slightly unreasonable.

That was kind of the point of this thread to begin with, ya know?

HibekiNov 20, 20172 votes

You can totally push hard at level 3. It wont be as fast as before, but what he was trying to say was what I put in my comment:

While its on them for dying, its on you to punish the jayce.

Jet SettNov 21, 20175 votes

Of course there's always the possibility of the jungler coming in to hold the lane mid to prevent that.

HibekiNov 21, 20172 votes

....which then opens up your jungler to counterjungle him

Sun Wu RyuumokuNov 21, 20172 votes

are u really forgetting this >>>> SOLO Q

HibekiNov 21, 20171 votes

We dont know what ELO this is, this is league of junglers. Stealing enemy camps is vital to higher level play.

Sun Wu RyuumokuNov 21, 20171 votes

it is at each elo... BUT all u say need some team coordination and map awareness. Thats why most won't follow a Fizz in the river... cause most of time ur jungler wont be at the right place at right time.

Its not league of jungler btw... it will soon... but botlane is still strong (too strong).

flibitydooNov 21, 20172 votes

that's a good thing

you need to apply pressure or you're just gonna lose

forcing their jungler into mid means you have full vision on all 5 champs and therefore your jungler (or top lane) can make a strategic play with that information.

It Hertz When IPNov 21, 20173 votes

In YoloQueue.

I'm not holding my breath.

Sun Wu RyuumokuNov 21, 20171 votes

What exactly makes you think I stopped to type out 3 pages worth of text after they died? Or even as much as 3 words?

Obviously he's a bot laner XD

WolfChasesNov 21, 20172 votes

Why are you even bothering to explain it to someone who is probably the same type of player as your bot?

People are just toxic, keep in mind there are a bunch of 12 yo kids who play this game and who are still not muture enough to wipe their asses so they call their moms for help.

I had one game where I got blamed by my support for not helping him because I was taking blue buff. Let me tell you something, he died bot, i had blue buff on me just about to expire and the second blue didnt even spawn yet. He msde that up and typed it in /all chat just as an excuse for dying. I could not believe how far people can go...

Sorry for bad Englando not my languando. XD

BAK3D BREADNov 21, 20171 votes

i like number 2) and your conclusion 100% my thought exactly lmfao

warpenguin555Nov 21, 20177 votes

"Malz wtf their mids been down here twice and you sat in lane"

Malzahar is slow as fuck. By the time I get there the fights over. I'd rather push for 1st tower or ambush them coming back to lane.

Don't even get me started on being expected to follow Taliyah/Sol/TF.

NefasNov 21, 20171 votes

I've been running Ghost / Predator on Malz for a number of games now...the ganks are excellent. It can be a bit of a gamble if you never get a chance to roam and gank though - if you get pushed in hard and focused or if other lanes feed. But I'm still really enjoying it and Predator is getting buffed.

FOR JUSTICENov 20, 20174 votes

welcome to soloque wood rank boi

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

BlackFluxNov 20, 20174 votes

The feeling is too real in bronze. I mean,with the ranked season ending it may be a good time to start doing ranked so you don't get the people who want you to follow the 7/2/0 Akali when you are a 0/0/5 Karthus or something. one is more capable of burst then the other. just as bad when your jungle,ping your coming 10+ times AFTER they ask for assistance and they never help you,then use both sums trying to dive and die,then blame you.

Janna Me FiddleNov 21, 20174 votes

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Then proceed to flame you for the entire rest of the game for "not following your laner" as a level 3 Viktor, vs the level 3 JAYCE.

No, no, you're right. It was positively asinine of me to assume that you understood what beware ping spam and mia ping spam meant. And so I'll walk into the nearest bush where he can 100-0 my squishy, non-mobile mage in less than 2 seconds, that would take me 3 hours to duel with at this point.

"Useless mid" "can't even follow lane" "Viktor should be able to 1v1 a LEVEL 3 FUCKING JAYCE" "lost lane to a jayce, what a joke"

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Just come top lane with the rest of us that got fed up of the ADC entitlement, we aren't expected to carry, we aren't expected to roam much, as long as we show up around objectives and don't die solo, we generally get left alone.

It's great up here, it's why Junglers love visiting us, it's our own little island where we get to have fun 2 v 2s/2 v 1s/1 v 1s without having to carry a pack of pampers and bottles for the ADC's that demand to be babysat.

Join ussss

Edit: There's also quite a few decent mage picks that go top

Brain Errör 404Nov 21, 20172 votes

We playing the same game?

summoner 12

Bot: Top!?!?!!?!?!?!!? summoner 12

KoggyStyleNov 21, 20171 votes

summoner 4 summoner 14 Rebellion

Julius EvolaNov 24, 20171 votes

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Just come top lane with the rest of us that got fed up of the ADC entitlement, we aren't expected to carry, we aren't expected to roam much, as long as we show up around objectives and don't die solo, we generally get left alone.

It's great up here, it's why Junglers love visiting us, it's our own little island where we get to have fun 2 v 2s/2 v 1s/1 v 1s without having to carry a pack of pampers and bottles for the ADC's that demand to be babysat.

Join ussss

Edit: There's also quite a few decent mage picks that go top

hahaha. This is so true. But the new runes killed toplane so badly. It's disgusting.

koshkyraNov 20, 20173 votes

I dont even have to read the post

I already know that the botlane said something like "y u no follow your laner noob?"

And its so annoying

HibekiNov 20, 20172 votes

Yes its on them for not being aware, but its still your responsibility to punish the lane.

Whether it be freezing, pushing to turret, counter roaming, whatever. Recalling is not a punish to the laner and you are giving that to them for free.

HalcyonDwellerNov 21, 20173 votes

I mean at this point we don't have enough information to determine whether the OP pushed or recalled at this point. All we know is that he did not roam to follow.

USG FailsawceNov 21, 20171 votes

What in gods name gave you even the remotest indication that I recalled?

HalcyonDwellerNov 21, 20172 votes

I feel your pain. I play mid lane a lot too.

Here's another fun one, you gank bottom lane and then leave, then your lane opponent shows up bot and ganks.

"Thanks for bringing your lane opponent to us" - my Ezreal that game

Alright mate, yeah I definitely took her by the hand and said "hey come bottom lane with me we can both get lots of kills!"

Some people can't fucking accept responsibility for their own mistakes.

Handy Sandy Nov 21, 20172 votes

oml i was Taliyah shoving lane and camping bot and the enemy team kept flaming Velkoz for not following me

RivuoNov 21, 20172 votes

Sometimes ill die even if i know the laners coming. Tower dives have occurred so much more compared to other seasons now you have to legitimately leave your tower and give up first tower

ThefrostyvikingNov 21, 20172 votes

Right in the midlane main feels.

I have had to deal with this so much too x)

I just recently played Anvivia into LB, everything was going just fine until she started roaming.

I went pinging like 10 times each time and she still somehow always got back with at least 1 kill more.

In the end my botlane who died 8 times to her before laning ended went and wrote " GG LB too fed, Anivia useless"

I was like " bruh are you serious?"

Then he went and told me to push to which i replied i could not because of enemy shyvana sitting midlane, which they called me overly passive for.

So to make a point i immediately showed the wave and walked towards tower, and Shyvana instantly appears and i have to burn flash to get out due to her ulting towards me.

"Report midlane useless troll"

I was quite close to bashing my head into a wall at that point.

Velzard of KozNov 20, 20171 votes

Lol, that's still better than being accused of no ss after you ss'd them several times with slight delays, combining various pings to properly convey the message that the midlaner is missing and roaming.

HeeroTXNov 21, 20171 votes

Is a "slight delay" after they've died? [sg-janna]

Stars ShaperNov 21, 20171 votes

And if things go well the ADC flames you because you KS them.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

IpressbuttonNov 21, 20171 votes

Nooo your suppose to follow your lane and get comboed from fog of war in the river. It's not like supports have an easier time keeping track of mini map cause they don't have to last hit or anything

I Do Not RecallNov 21, 20171 votes

That's why they are trying so hard to re balance the game around teamwork. So that no matter how well you do and how far ahead you get, you have to rely on people like that to work with you to win.

G A M E D E S I G N.

KLËÐNov 21, 20171 votes

or when the botlane is 1-15 and they call you a useless jungle meanwhile its like 10 min in and the enemy adc is full build

Søn oƒ EchidnæNov 22, 20171 votes

Agreed with OP. I take constant precaution to MIA ping my mid and immediately Warning Ping bot or top and am 9/10 correct on which lane my mid went for even when I did not see which way they dove.

9/10 times said lane ignores my pings, and by 20 mins my mid is somewhere between 2-0 and 5-0.

Instead of following, which in my case would be bad regardless of matchup due to my lack of 1v1 ability in general, I shove lane and start damaging mid turret, and get out before their JG ganks me or before my mid comes back, even if I'm risking a lot at low HP and/or mana.

I do what I can to at least gain something from it, but that 9/10 times, I end up muting one lane or the other because they proceed to spam rage or spam ping, or both.

Nevermind the fact that you dumbasses now have pit me against a 5-0 version of the mid I WAS just fighting at 3-0, you're right. The extra 2-0 you just gave him makes MY job easier when he comes back to lane against me, right?