@Meddler You can easily adjust Poppy's stats to be healthy instead of scrapping her entire kit.

Kingsgrave··2 votes·585 views

Unlike other drastic reworks, her kit isn't actually that bad on a fundamental level yet Riot has said they want to only keep her E and make her into a Tank. I really don't understand why they want to completely kill a character.

It would be like changing Olaf to only have his Q.

It's the random things on her kit that are bad. She has the ability to ignore almost all damage while also getting incredibly high Armor and AD naturally + high base AD and Armor.


Give her Jax's base Mana, Mana Regen and Armor. Also give her Scaling MR per level. The rest of her stats can stay the same.

Passive should be some sort of Shield mechanic to give her incentives to rush forward like her current Passive does without being an obscene amount of damage reduction. Potentially giving her a shield whenever she takes damage, the opposite of how Vi's shield works.

Q should be a more straightforward Physical damage ability instead of being almost 400 damage that converts the entirety of an Auto to Magic. Would be nice if it Cleaved instead of just being single target.

W stacks should give MS instead of Armor and AD, with the Active giving full stacks + an additional amount. Potentially lost while on CD to make her boost feel like it has impact. Make the stacks only generate from instances of damage taken instead of just being in combat, to give her incentives to just run up and start brute force killing people.

E deals Physical + Bonus AD and AP and applies on hit effects as an autoattack. The damage is doubled if she collides with a wall with her target instead of dealing base magic + AP then getting an obscene amount of magic + AP damage when colliding with a Wall. Deals moderate damage instead of super high burst.

R: For 6 seconds and 180/130/80 CD, Poppy deals 10/30/50% more auto related damage to her Target and takes 10/30/50% Less Damage and CC from all Other Targets. She is no longer straight up immune to everyone else, so she keeps the high speed dueling elimination without completely being able to ignore the entirety of the target's team.


Her kit is incredibly iconic and she occupies a space of Initiation Fighter Assassin that nobody else fills. She is like Vi + Jax, and it is honestly too interesting to just remove completely.

Don't just make her into another Tank initiator like Sion, please Riot. She is Fighter/Tank, since Fighter/Assassin doesn't work for her, and needs to stay like that.

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sp4414 votes

Simple, her visuals are outdated, her passive is broken, her Q and W uninteresting, her E... actually her E's pretty fine, and her R is absolutely fucking bullshit. She's also the worst example of feast or famine in the game right now, either being hilariously useless or game-winningly powerful if not stopped during laning phase.

TheDuelist9991 votes

her passives only broken for non chogath mains

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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her passives only broken for non chogath mains

Her passive gives her 50% damage reduction on any portion of an attack that does over 10% of her current health in damage. That's INCREDIBLY powerful, as you need to effectively do 190% the damage you think you need to kill her.

TheDuelist9991 votes

My joke was because over the course of laning phase as cho vs poppy youll only have her passive reduce the dmg of a q or two because by the time your hitting her for that much of her health you can eat her.

ShuffledPancake3 votes

She is toxic - like yorick, that's why they are reworking her.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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She is toxic - like yorick, that's why they are reworking her.

What part of her kit is toxic even with my suggested changes?

ShuffledPancake2 votes

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What part of her kit is toxic even with my suggested changes?

Being able to become god and do more dmg and have high defenses is toxic in riots eyes. Also her execution of her punishment is so bad - turn into god, gap close - do dmg. Dont downvote me for your ignorance note: im not talking bout your changes.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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Being able to become god and do more dmg and have high defenses is toxic in riots eyes. Also her execution of her punishment is so bad - turn into god, gap close - do dmg. Dont downvote me for your ignorance note: im not talking bout your changes.

I took away her ability to reduce damage completely for free and her free resistances. It's not that hard for Riot to do the same.

ShuffledPancake3 votes

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I took away her ability to reduce damage completely for free and her free resistances. It's not that hard for Riot to do the same.

  • That is her identity, they said they dont want to change that. Also if you read i said NOT your changes since they are irellavant.
Kingsgrave2 votes

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  • That is her identity, they said they dont want to change that. Also if you read i said NOT your changes since they are irellavant.

That is not her identity, it's something she has.

Her identity is mobile initiation and constant brute force playstyle.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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That is not her identity, it's something she has.

Her identity is mobile initiation and constant brute force playstyle.

No her identity is Single out - Initiate upon and Judge - R - E - Q

Kingsgrave1 votes

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No her identity is Single out - Initiate upon and Judge - R - E - Q

So Vi?

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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So Vi?

You realise they both are enforcers/judges, so yes. i would have AND DON'T HAVE any problem with vi and poppy's relation.

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