Is there ever going to be any love given to Taric?

Clementine··2 votes·499 views

His winrate of 49% isn't that bad, but he has a pickrate of 0.75% so it's mostly only mains that play him. Lux Veigar Galio Annie are all picked more than he is, and MissFortune has double his playrate at support. His mana costs are high, his heal is nonexistent, almost every champion can dash out of his e, and it feels so bad playing him unless you're against a team like Renekton Graves Zed Jhin Janna because none of Taric's ability scale with MR, only armour. He's a super niche pick at best, and even when he's put against full AD team comps, put play him over other supports?

21 Comments

DeadTrannies2 votes

No, same reason they gutting leblanc when they re work a champion they make it so overloaded that if they give them any kind of decent numbers they're absurdly broken

Want to reform1 votes

This. Reduce Taric's mana costs by 10 and suddenly you'll see him picked everywhere but support as a bruiser/juggernaut level tank.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

that kind of love dare not be spoken of [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Big Lincoln2 votes

taric will never be allowed to be good with the ult he has right now

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

so most likely another rework failure ... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Big Lincoln2 votes

he just has too much power wrapped up in it

Quil Evrything2 votes

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almost every champion can dash out of his e,

it is now a SKILL shot. It takes SKILL to land.

I've seen tarics that land that freaking thing almost every time.

So.. its just you, needing to get good at it.

contrariwise, you could look at it, as a tool to burn dash abilities. Which in and of itself, is useful.

Clementine1 votes

No offense, but you have a negative winrate in silver 5 so your opinion isn't worth very much.

Second of all, no amount of "skill" can make you land a stun on an Ez that e's away, or a Lucian that e's, or a Quinn that e's, or a cait that e's, or a Vayne that e's you, etc. etc.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

no offense but just cuz some one might not be as high rank as others dont mean their opinions are invalid

Clementine2 votes

A player that's right next to the worst tier in the game's idea of balancing a champion they don't ever play seems like it should be invalid to me

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

well that dont make their opinion invalid... matter of fact 71.89% of the player base is bronze and silver... so maybe the major of the player base my have some valid points

Linna Excel1 votes

He got a rework last year. It's not like he hasn't gotten any love from riot.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I think Taric is currently the most balanced champion in the game. He might be a little weak on the numbers, but I think he's in a great spot, tbh. I still love playing him.

You do have a point about the win rate given how few people play him, though. Worth a look.

Dokkaebi1 votes

Ofc his win rate is low. His kit might seem simple but nobody really knows how play him. Have you seen Taric mains? They destroy everyone.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Not in plat+... just look at his stats.

You're talking to a "taric main" in plat 2. I am barely above 50% win rate with him right now.

Dokkaebi1 votes

Plat players know how to counter him. But he's broken in low elo.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Well, he needs some love for higher elos. I realize some champs are too pub-stompy to warrant straight buffs, but he could use something that higher elo players could take advantage of. Like I said, I think his kit is really, really healthy. But he might be a little weak atm for skilled players.

Dokkaebi1 votes

What do you think they should do?

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Well, if we were only balancing around high elo on this patch, I would say buffs to his heal. It's really underwhelming and on a very long cd despite costing a lot of mana.

Long term, they really need to rework support itemization for Taric to shine. Taric, plainly put, lanes like crap. The champs that are good are champs that synergize well with sighstone and one of the gold items, and Taric just isn't on that list.

When Taric is really threatening, it's because he can get a nice catch early and get ahead. In those scenarios, though, ANY champion tends to do well, especially the ones that scale. The issue is that he doesn't have the tools to ride out a tough lane.

Specifically, I'm thinking of relic shield on that comment. It can be really tough, especially against a poke lane, to get your stacks used on that item. Taric's heal doesn't help him sustain hard enough to just take the poke, and going coin is awful rn just because coin is awful. Even if it wasn't awful for everyone, Taric's heal is too weak for him to really utilitze the mana that he gets from coin well.

If coin were buffed, we might see that sort of a Taric do okay in the current environment (especially if they would buff that heal a bit). But relic shield Taric has WAY more weaknesses than strengths, and that's why he's doing poorly at high elo. He's just too easily bullied by other champs.

Dokkaebi1 votes

Learn to play him and he shits on everyone

PeepingPeafowl1 votes

He is too good with communication to get buffed most likely.

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