Raptors Need to Be Changed

Woodakoodashooda·Jan 18, 2017·6 votes·1,147 views

The exp they give is negligible, the gold they offer just isn't worth it, and the damage they deal is so cancerous to most any jungle that most people don't bother with them.

Red start is horrible now because you practically have to suicide on Raptors for level 3 unless you just skip them altogether to reach level 3 a whole minute after the enemy jungle reaches 3.

Increasing the number of Raptors was not okay.

Reducing the exp of Raptors was not okay.

Please revert the changes to Raptors.

12 Comments

This Is Your DadJan 18, 20173 votes

I usually go smiteless red and then smite raptors and take very little damage ;) Just a tip.

Elite4RunnerJan 18, 20173 votes

Is this one of those "my enemy has the advantage because he is my enemy" posts?

GibberwattJan 18, 20171 votes

It appears to be that way

Lord DesertJan 18, 20172 votes

didnt they just increased the exp of the raptors? or did i missread that?

forrestoJan 18, 20171 votes

they did.

dim2aJan 18, 20172 votes

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Red start is horrible now because you practically have to suicide on Raptors for level 3 unless you just skip them altogether to reach level 3 a whole minute after the enemy jungle reaches 3.

Are you saying it takes you a whole extra minute to walk from red to wolves than it takes enemy jungler to walk from blue to his next camp? wow!

ArnoldSchwarzensJan 18, 20171 votes

They just rverted the changes to raptors this patch, I don't know what you're on about.

BunnymapJan 18, 20171 votes

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They just rverted the changes to raptors this patch, I don't know what you're on about.

They didn't touch their damage. All that was changed was the exp. raptors still eat most junglers alive.

ArnoldSchwarzensJan 18, 20171 votes

Well they are supposed to deal that much damage if you don't bring any form of AOE clearing yourself. Champions like Amumu are supposed to really like this camp but struggle a bit more with the single-targeted camps while single targeted junglers like Lee have it the other way around ( well until he gets Tiamat at least ).

And as far as I know their damage was the same ever since they got reworked, there is no damage buff to revert.

LankPantsJan 18, 20171 votes

When most junglers do a red start it's either for an aggressive early gank or an aggressive invade. There are a couple of exceptions to this but they tend to be champs who don't struggle with raptors anyway. If you're starting red you generally have good reason to ignore raptors and the current strongest junglers in the game excel at this.

The vast majority of junglers looking to hard clear their jungle will start blue. It's better because you get to keep red at 4 for ganks, which you have plenty of time for in the half hour it takes for the jungle to respawn.

forrestoJan 18, 20171 votes

They made it very clear when they made the pre-season jungle changes that the point was to make camps better or worse for different jung champs. for instance krugs were made the way they are to help sustained damage champs

SlazllJan 19, 20171 votes

They are also going to be nerfing jungle xp and gold on everything even more, because atm they say they have to much influence on the map, when the truth is the main issue is the easiest and best gameplay is just repeat ganking bot everything that you want to winisi right there. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/UA1YhFzw-adc-possible-fixs