*insert clickbait comment about assassins*
mention a bunch of ADCs in an oblivious and innocent tone
get to hot page easily
mention a bunch of ADCs in an oblivious and innocent tone
get to hot page easily
That sad part is that I agree with ADC's and Enchanters being too strong but the boards QQ has gone so far that its just ridiculous.
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or draintanking 1v5
in this world, by dodging their skillshots without having ones themselves lul
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An assassin will win against an ADC if fed, but if not(say both have 1 or 2 items) the ADC should win every time, putting it frankly, ADC's lifesteal is too much for a non-fed assassin to handle along with Crit's. In addition, lately ADC's have begun to hit their Power Spike's earlier than previously, so what would originally be 30-40 minutes is now 15-25, giving an assassin less time to actually get fed and shut them down. And once we get past that threshold of "Late-Game" assassins cannot compete 1v1 with an ADC, the crit damage and lifesteal is just way to much, and they don't have skillshots to hit so it's simple right-clicking at that point, it's not like assassins have defensive item's to help combat fed ADC's. Which is another problem, because of the prevalence of Bot Lane 4 man's, Bot lane focused team comps and games, ADC's are much more likely to get fed, which makes an assassin who can't get fed worthless.
Though honestly, 80% of the time, this didn't happen and the assassin just didn't play it correctly or chose to attack the Sup and ADC at the same time, which is an AWFUL idea considering ADC's with a Sup have effectively 4000 health now.
Let me correct something.
The only ADCs who are building anything life steal related is Kog, Varus and Kalista which is BotRK
Most ADCs these days just have Ardent + Warlords as a life steal source and one point into Vampirism which is 0.4% life steal, most common ADC build these days is Boots, IE, Double zeal, LW and usally GA as last or substitute that with Hurricane if they have AoE.
draven doesn't build lifesteal hehexd also most adcs build a scimitar at some point.
You dont really misplay as kat tho. You just get punished for having delays and counterplay unlike most adcs. If the Lucian dashes out of my fizz ult, i barely misplayed, he just outplayed me. Problem with that is that i cant outplay their auto attack but im supposed to be the one winning
Oh so you miss your skillshots but still want to 1shot the ADC , ok ..
I dont miss, they dodge. What can they miss or what can I outplay? Thats the problem, adcs can outplay assaasins but assassins cant outplay adcs that arent like Xayah or Jhin (tho xayah has her ult as hard counter), so the newer adcs.
Yes ADCs can totally outplay and 1v1
by dodging her skillshots :D
I'd also like to see an ADC 1v1ing me with
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have more angles to beat you than you her. :P just saying.
it's not about adc's 1vs1 assasins you idiot, its about adc being unkillable due to league of shields , league of tanks, league of peel
I've actually had it happen, not in this meta but close enough. I was a fed AF Rengar and I dive onto the fed ADC but I only do 3/4s of the ADC's hp while the ADC drain tanks back to full health and kills me.
But in this meta whenever I lose 1v1s to ADC its because as SA Kayn I miss my W and just misplay super fucking hard and die.
yeah i know the only assassin i really play is diana and the only time i lose is if i misplay and go in thinking my q hit. hell i 2v1d a xayah rakan combo even with xayahs untargetable pluss rakan cc shield and heal i still won, i was super fed that game but still
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yeah i know the only assassin i really play is diana and the only time i lose is if i misplay and go in thinking my q hit. hell i 2v1d a xayah rakan combo even with xayahs untargetable pluss rakan cc shield and heal i still won, i was super fed that game but still
Diver, not assassins :P
since when has anyone ever built diana anything other than full ap. and played her an other way than just trying to blow up the back line.
Diana doesn't have a true out, only ins. She is more durable by nature of her kit and works by going into a fight and is able to stay in it. Someone like Zed ones to go in, blow someone up and get out. Diana wants to blow someone up but is able to stay and keep fighting in the thick of it.
Diana is a diver.
https://plays.tv/video/5825e97444a99067e6/adcs-are-hard-countered-by-assassins?from=user
i was heavily salted from this i was 14/5
I don't really understand what do you mean "has gone so far".
The Boards is a community of sorts, you can't expect us to disagree with each other when there is a real problem at hand. Ofcourse it'll be spammed to an extent to get Riot's attention because they do communicate here.
Too far as in every 2 posts is the same QQ that adds nothing to the discussion and therefore has no reason to exist other than "hehe adc op plz nerf". It's why riot avoids these boards, because of the echo chamber effect.
Honestly, the meme "hehe xd op nerf. Also Ahri is best" posts i've NEVER seen reach Hot.
But then again, it's been nearly 3 years. I could be wrong on a FEW exceptions.
Regardless, Riot doesn't avoid the Boards cuz of such a miniscule problem. It avoids them when it becomes incoherent stupidity like begging to do something without solutions that isn't even trolling.
I consider posts like "The best assassin" or "mage items suck" or "adc/enchanters are too op" posts to be brainless QQ not because they don't suggest stiff but because it's all been said before on another post so you are literally adding nothing to the problem. Your post may as well not exist.
As wild as the boards are right now, you still have to consider that people will voice out until they get change, like any protest or act in history. This is just the league equivalent of it. I just wish the discussions were more civilized and thought out than circle jerking and telling riot to fire each other because they can't balance the game.
People don't understand that riot doesn't want to talk to people who are shooting garbage out their mouths every time they post, and that's why you see them replying to other posts instead of the jerk threads.
Hey,
Because this thread has already been up awhile and generated a lot of attention, I will leave it up and unlocked. However, for future posts, satire like this is best posted in Memes & Games. Gameplay is specifically for serious discussion about the game.
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Hey,
Because this thread has already been up awhile and generated a lot of attention, I will leave it up and unlocked. However, for future posts, satire like this is best posted in Memes & Games. Gameplay is specifically for serious discussion about the game.
Wardens was such a dumb idea.
He's not wrong, though. This is an M&G post, it really doesn't fit in Gameplay.
Okay i'll remember that for next time. I've always posted them in gameplay and I've been doing my meta shitposts for a long time. Bear with me while I break this habit : ^)
Fish I'll be straight up...this might honestly fit here given the conversations it started about gameplay. Just something that you should make note of.
Comment with a video of an ADC killing an assassin who is 3 levels and 10 kills behind him and who misses all of his abilities.
"Don't call it a misplay cause you wouldn't have done any better"
"That player is Challenger, he can't do mistakes even though he himself acknowledged in that video he fucked up and can't do much more"
Not quite an ADC v assassin, but I thought why not
Holy shit. What did that Jhin have!? IE, Duskblade, Youmuu's, Shiv, and 2 Bloodthirsters?
Insert comment that seems to go into depth about the issue surrounding said issue mentioned in the post, but says just enough not to arouse suspicion enough to be asked for sources on data supporting said comment
Holy shit this
B-b-b-but Twitch 1v1'd me when I was 0/6 as Zed!
I was a fed Zed in full items and 6 item
RIGHT CLICKED ME
The horror!
someone plays an assassin feeds his ass off and decides to 1v1 a fed adc then dies
oh no adc is so op nerf pls
someone plays an adc in S4/5/6 feeds his ass off and decides to overextend and dies
oh no assassins so op nerf pls
The boards has a knack for making you despise some of the people here even when you agree with them. =_=
I've actually reached the point were i report these posts for spam.
inserts a comment on how tanks and supports have nothing to do with the current situation
I started playing Jinx mid on my main account and it 1. is better for endgame/teamfights 2. outshines any assassin 3. has easier laning 4. is easier to just aa the enemy and not miss skills 5. can kill tanks The only thing going for assassins is like jumping or going through walls.
Yeah it was funny with the first post but the joke got old. But then again, it's a meme and they must be repeated to be kept alive.
DAE think that tanks are too hard to kill, assassins can kill me too fast, adc do too much attack damage late game, siege mages have too much range, duelists are too hard to fight one on one, and supports have too much utility?
"Muh tristana, muh twitch, muh cait, muh knights vow, why can't assassins 1 shot full tanks, buff zed, It shouldn't matter that im 0/19/0.5 with 6 dorans rings, i should of 1 shot that adc with my ult"