"We don't want the Jungler to just farm his camps all game!!!"

Ok sure but why·Feb 18, 2017·1 votes·1,045 views

Then why do you punish Junglers who gank too often? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2428294941/48852592?tab=overview

10/1/5, and my only death was a camp execution after my computer froze. I got first tower, I warded plenty, and I saved Jhin's ass from those nasty ganks. But oh, no! My CS apparently kept me from being good at League!!

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I'm not asking what I did wrong. I'm saying that CS shouldn't mean literally almost everything when it comes to ratings.

17 Comments

DynikusFeb 18, 20174 votes

You should be able to farm in between ganks. There's no excuse to only have 38 cs in 20 minutes as a jungler.

Ok sure but whyFeb 18, 20171 votes

Yeah, if you wanna go 5/1 instead.

DynikusFeb 18, 20172 votes

No, you just need to work on your pathing. You should be able to maintain 4-6 cs/m while still ganking.

Ok sure but whyFeb 18, 20171 votes

Not when the only two camps with more than 3 cs chunk away almost all of your health as a Vayne jg.

On the other hand, how many people go Vayne jg? Why would that be so strict on their ratings?

rtbf221651412Feb 19, 20171 votes

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No, you just need to work on your pathing. You should be able to maintain 4-6 cs/m while still ganking.

If people ask for ganks every 2 minutes, you really think you have time? Think how long it takes to travel.

This is assuming that you go every single time when called.

There are idiots who believe you are part of their lane basically.

DynikusFeb 19, 20171 votes

That's why you don't go every time someone asks for a gank. If you're a good jungler, you know where and when to gank and when to farm. You also adjust your pathing to clear camps in between ganks. It's all min maxing that separates good and bad junglers.

rtbf221651412Feb 19, 20171 votes

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That's why you don't go every time someone asks for a gank. If you're a good jungler, you know where and when to gank and when to farm. You also adjust your pathing to clear camps in between ganks. It's all min maxing that separates good and bad junglers.

Yeah I know this. I'm a secondary jungle main. You will end up getting blamed for not ganking a lane they should be winning alone in the first place though. If he doesn't keep their lanes pushed, he basically loses his jungle. Especially if it is mid. We are not baby sitters but we are kinda forced to baby sit at the same time.

KilanostFeb 18, 20172 votes

downvote for vayne jungle lol

Ok sure but whyFeb 18, 20171 votes

cuz vayne is cancer or cuz you hate off-meta

Ark SorcererFeb 18, 20171 votes

I personally dislike off-meta junglers. Off-meta supports, well, we can only hope for the best late game. Off meta junglers on the other hand I do not like because the jungle is not desinged for any random champ to come walking in and say "I want to jungle!" Quinn is an example of this. Does it work? Qt times. Should it work? No.

Ok sure but whyFeb 18, 20171 votes

"Should it work? No," is the reason why the meta is so strict

Ark SorcererFeb 18, 20171 votes

It shouldn't work in the jungle because it should introduce variables that eliminate most champions from doing it. The meta in Mages/Assassins Mid, Marksmen bot with a support and so on is not the same because champion chemistry determines who wins lane (that and skill but lets not mention that). We can get 2 mages to be in bot lane and after lv 8 or so, they can wave clear better than the marksman, have cc to torment the marksman, and heck of a lot better burst potential. Should it work? No. Can it? Yes. It will take practice and combinations to be determined but it can work.

Ok sure but whyFeb 19, 20171 votes

So, you're saying that I had enough practice and combinations to pull off a seemingly impossible task.

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Ark SorcererFeb 19, 20171 votes

Never said it was impossible. It is the matter of it being effective. Anyone who knows how to jungle can pick up any jungler and do well clearing camps (Not including Nidalee, Elise or Kindred) after a few tries. You make them try to use a marksmen jungle, that will be a struggle because it introduces new tactics that effectively junglers do need to do-- kiting.

KilanostFeb 18, 20171 votes

true damage on auto is a toxic game element. And vayne in the jungle points to a greedy play style that fucks your team most games unless you're smurfing.

Has nothing to do with meta.

Ok sure but whyFeb 19, 20171 votes

so, cuz she's cancer

Plus everyone can have true damage on auto item 1419 , vayne's is healthier because it's only %max health

Also, Vayne jg is extraordinary because she can just zip in from behind and pin someone to a wall with ease, and especially good if you follow it up with some item 3022

KilanostFeb 20, 20171 votes

%health true damage is by definition a toxic game element. When someone has true damage you're supposed to build health to counter. When you make that true damage %health, you remove that counterplay.

The fact that you think vayne jg is good and you think % max health true damage is a healthy game element only leads me to conclude that you are a moron and further time arguing with you will be wasted.

Good day sir.