Riot acknowledges that league of mobility/mobility creep is an issue that's hurting immobile champs

HateDaddy··11 votes·2,437 views

More specifically, if you're an immobile melee champion, God help you. Split push or nothing.

And yet....their last 3 released champions absolutely shit on immobile chamoions even harder. Did your champion design team not get that memo? Or do we gotta feed the drooling inbreds who want to spam the next fotm OP stupid mobile champion more content to get their cash for e$portz?

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darkdill8 votes

The following League ladies are all crying in a corner...

Ashe Lux Soraka Syndra Zyra

HateDaddy5 votes

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The following League ladies are all crying in a corner...

Ashe Lux Soraka Syndra Zyra

Those are terrible examples.

Ashe is basically the reason over loaded mobility was created

Lux, Syndra and Zyra have made up for their lack of mobility with extremely overtuned and overpowering disruptive and damage from long range. All of them at one point or another have been overpowered as shit because of it (which partially is due to league of mobility or simply overtuned kits). But that speaks to a bigger problem: in order to deal with league of mobility, you have to have overloaded bullshit in some other form.

Soraka may actually be really frickin strong right now and people simply haven't figured out how to play her yet. And I feel no sympathy for Soraka because she's done nothing but break the game several times as a solo laner and even support. Her design seems much better now. But solo lane soraka was literally the most cancerous shit ever.

Range is one thing that gives you some help in league of mobility, specifically long range or even long range disruption. But if you're immobile and melee or youre carries like Kog or Varus, you're basically impossible to protect at this point even though you have some form of self peel or incredible range increases.

A Superb Villain2 votes

Veigar That's a lot of mobility.

http://i.imgur.com/f9OZ6SD.png It would be a shame

http://i.imgur.com/jSfuW1v.png if you

http://i.imgur.com/zFMPqgb.png got stunned.

HateDaddy1 votes

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Veigar That's a lot of mobility.

http://i.imgur.com/f9OZ6SD.png It would be a shame

http://i.imgur.com/jSfuW1v.png if you

http://i.imgur.com/zFMPqgb.png got stunned.

Ezreal wut happened

Orangesilk1 votes

Don't splitpush as a melee immobile champion, please DON'T, if you're immobile, you're gonna get caught out and feed uselessly, splitpushing is only a viable strat when you're impossible to catch like Trynd, Yi, Zed and so on.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Don't splitpush as a melee immobile champion, please DON'T, if you're immobile, you're gonna get caught out and feed uselessly, splitpushing is only a viable strat when you're impossible to catch like Trynd, Yi, Zed and so on.

So I should just teamfight, get chain cc'd, die and accomplish nothing?

Orangesilk2 votes

Immobile melees usually have strong CC, and should participate in teamfights trying to lockdown enemy carries, unless you're Morde, Morde has it real rough in this meta.

chumbler3 votes

Acknowledging mobility creep would mean they've done anything to actually address it. So far literally all they've done and are continuing to do in the foreseeable future is make mobility creep worse.

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Immobile melees usually have strong CC, and should participate in teamfights trying to lockdown enemy carries, unless you're Morde, Morde has it real rough in this meta.

Until Riot decides to remove that cc because it makes the mobility overlords cry. Riot has steadily nerfed any actual counters to mobility.

Orangesilk2 votes

Let's check out them immobile melees and their CC:

-Braum This is a CC guy, that CC is usually better spent on peel rather than engage though. -Chogath This is THE CC guy, he wants to teamfight as often as possible. 4-man ruptures win games. -Darius This guy got a bit shafted, yeah, he was transformed into a one-trick pony, where his one trick is winning lane against a melee champion, even then, if the enemy carry is sorta dumb, you can pull him into an early death, or if you're ahead of your backline, you can pull an assassin from your backline to the frontline, peeling for them. -Galio A CC guy, a teamfight guy, he wants to five 5 people and ult, teamfighter. -Garen This guy got shafted as well (Even moreso with the removal of DFG), he's a champion who needs help desperately, since he doesn't have a clear niche (a CC-less tank?, an immobile bruiser). -Malphite I don't know HOW immobile he is, since he gets a dash and an MS boost, but he seems pretty kiteable after using his ult, anyways, this is a guy with a lot of CC to do teamfights. -Mordekaiser As I said before, it sucks to be a melee mage with no mobility in this meta, he needs help. -Nasus This is the one immobile melee who should be splitpushing, mainly because he's hard to kill, usually carries ghost as an escape, can nom-nom turrets in a couple hits and is generally impossible to duel come late-game. Even then, with enough CC on your team, he works great as a carry buster during a teamfight, since if the enemy team is wasting it's CC and damage on a Nasus, your team is winning. -Nunu This is a guy with a lot of slows during teamfights, and a nifty buff for your ADC, so more of a teamfighter, yes. -Olaf The guy got Olaf'd, so he's not as useful all around as he used to, even then, he's a guy that can turn red, run for the carry, and guarantee that the whole enemy team is trying to nuke him ASAP (no chain-cc here). If your team can capitalize on that, that'd be great. -Rumble This guy is technically an immobile melee, lot's of CC, great teamfighting, he's cool. -Skarner Lot's of CC, interesting teamfights, if you MANAGE, to snag any priority target, that's a dead target, I have also seen his ult used as peel against a Zed bursting your backline, it's beautiful. -Taric I guess he has a bit of CC?, he should be by your carry, peeling for him, healing him, and boosting his stats. teamfighter. -Trundle Admittedly, this guy works better as a splitpusher than a teamfighter, cool duels, viable escapes. -Yorick This champion is overall terrible at splitpushing, since he pops turrets very slowly and without fantastic waveclear, while having no relevant escapes, his teamfights, while lacking in CC, have a lot of utility with that ult.

So indeed, most immobile melees actually DO have access to CC, and work better as teamfighters. One reason we won't be seeing them that often in competitive play, is because teamfights aren't all that common in the competitive scene, this does not mean they are useless in non-competitive play.

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

My main feels you... Mordekaiser

Easiest champion to kite in the entire game.

Silents4291 votes

Oh look originality at it's finest.

Hey while you are whining why not make a post that allows any meaningful discussion on the topic occur?

HateDaddy2 votes

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Oh look originality at it's finest.

Hey while you are whining why not make a post that allows any meaningful discussion on the topic occur?

Like your post here, right?

Silents4291 votes

Not a post, A reply. I am also not here to debate anything just to point out you should post something more meaningful other then just whine. But this community doesn't like that.

Fraggleroc1 votes

{quoted} Split push or nothing.

Just to add: Split push is all about mobility too.

You're right.

Kierphe1 votes

This has kind of been an issue for.. years.

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