The Reason every Ryze Rework fails

PhantomGG·6/1/2019, 11:26:40 PM·2 votes·1,451 views

Is because none of them are true reworks.

The core problem with Ryze, is his core concept has been kept in every single version, when it's his core concept that's the issue itself.

The Concept of ryze Spell slinging mage, who is kinda tanky, with low cooldowns and very reliable abilities. -Also scales amazing -Also decent in early game -Also decent in late game -Also roams just as good as an assassin -Also serves the job of being the AP carry

This champion is just simply to much

If you compare ryze from day one, than compare it to todays ryze, outside of the shiny new paint job, you would actually think they are the same champion except one has shiner graphics. And they are. He still has his point and click snare, he still has his point and click E that goes bouncy bouncy. The only two things that have changed about him is q is now a skill shot. (but other than that still the same but even better) and they took away his over powered as hell ultimate, and thank god for that.

Don't believe me? https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Ryze/History#2nd All of it is here

These reworks do nothing, because none of them are reworks, infact one can argue, that it's been nothing but buffs.

Why do you think the newest ryze doesn't have desperate power anymore? For riot knows for fact if he still had that ultimate, Ryze would be indisputably the best champion in the game, for every role. Removing Desperate Power from his kit was a "desperate" move to remove power from his toolkit, and even than it still failed.

If we want a Ryze rework to work, than what has to happen, is the entire champion itself needs change.

Not just as shiny new coat of paint. An actual change.

3 Comments

Kazekiba6/2/2019, 12:14:57 AM2 votes

The changes on PBE are super good. Half the problem is Rune Prison.

The other solution is drop his Overload scaling off a cliff and make his R a combat spell: After 2.5 seconds, Ryze summons a meteor through a massive rift in space, dealing 65 / 140 / 225 (+75% maximum Mana) (+30% AP) damage to minions and Champions. If the Backdoor defense is not active, deals half this damage to lane turrets and Inhibitors.

PhDs Nuts6/2/2019, 12:26:53 AM1 votes

Pretty sure it's just his W. It doesn't matter that his damage is from a spammable skillshot if you also give him a spammable point and click root.