Blizzard(Overwatch) takes a shot at Riot regarding dynamic queue.

Nausicäa ·Jun 7, 2016·9 votes·1,366 views

Overwatch: Blizzard answers the big questions

"The thing that's very important to us, and that we keep trying to prove over and over again to the community is that we're listening and open to change. Hopefully they'll know that if something like the queuing system isn't working how they like it, they realise that instead of just being angry at us, they'll know that Blizzard actually listens to its community, they'll probably make changes based on the feedback."

13 Comments

Shac NorrisJun 7, 20162 votes

The problem with RIOT is that they actually listened to the community that wanted to play with more friends in ranked (3-4), but that turned out to be a terrible idea, and when people pointed it out and wanted solo queue back, RIOT refused to listen to their community and plugged their ears.

ParoeJun 7, 20168 votes

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The problem with RIOT is that they actually listened to the community that wanted to play with more friends in ranked (3-4), but that turned out to be a terrible idea, and when people pointed it out and wanted solo queue back, RIOT refused to listen to their community and plugged their ears.

... Design 101; when you implement a new system youre not 100% sure of, you DO NOT remove the previous system entirely.

Dynamic queue is pathetic. For normals it works very well, but for RANKED it mocks and humiliates any notion of skill-based rankings. If you cant get 5 people together for ranked 5v5s, thats a problem on YOUR end and no one elses. If you have three people, play twisted treeline. If you have four, just play normals.

Removing solo queue was by and far the worst possible decision riot could have made. Making ranked no longer matter was the second.

SylverblitzJun 7, 20161 votes

I would be really interested to know if there are less people participating in ranked this season as a direct result of dynamic queue. I know I haven't touched ranked and don't intend to because of the likelihood of facing a premade with a bunch of solo players.

ParoeJun 7, 20162 votes

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I would be really interested to know if there are less people participating in ranked this season as a direct result of dynamic queue. I know I haven't touched ranked and don't intend to because of the likelihood of facing a premade with a bunch of solo players.

It was probably a greater amount than usual for the first month or so, then we started to realize how many massive problems it has. Id imagine 'more' people are doing ranked 'less regularly'. You get to gold and stop because its simply not worth it or fun to climb in dynamic queue, and because its so easy to climb with premades (hell theres boosters making a killing with this because they dont have to trapeze the law...) 'more' people are doing ranked.

So riot can easily spin dynamic queue as a 'success' when its very clearly a failure - because the 'numbers' show 'more people playing ranked' than the previous season, despite there being far less regularity.

SylverblitzJun 7, 20161 votes

That seems like a pretty accurate evaluation of how it will turn out.

"More people played ranked than ever this season!" Very careful selection of words that are true but only half the truth. Sometimes a half truth is worse than a lie.

AMYS GRAVEJun 7, 20161 votes

Part of what would be obscuring that data are players like me. I played ranked for the first time this season because of the new champ select, no more mid or feed champ select mentality really appealed to me. I played a bunch before realizing that dynamic queue for ranked was awful and matchmaking was as bad if not worse than normals so i went back to normals.

SylverblitzJun 7, 20161 votes

You basically confirmed what I suspected and backs up my decision not to do ranked yet on this account or my other account. Until Riot get a firm grip and establish a system that is as balanced for the individual player as it is for the team of friends I can only see ranked as being a giant dick measuring system.

AMYS GRAVEJun 7, 20161 votes

I can only see ranked as being a giant dick measuring system.

was it ever anything else?

Shac NorrisJun 8, 20161 votes

Not sure why i'm getting downvoted. Could you explain?

Vistha KaiJun 7, 20161 votes

You are right, that some people wanted to have a better experience playing ranked with friends, but nobody wanted ranked to turn into a steaming pile of goat shit, that's worse than normals.

NOBODY ASKED FOR THAT!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/video-game-championship-wrestling/images/e/e5/Adam.jpg?noredirect

That was Riot's own and only decision.

Johr DinhJun 7, 20162 votes

I just don't understand how the most popular game on the planet can't afford to have 2 ranked playlists, a solo ranked, and a 2/3/5s ranked.....how the hell can there not be enough people to support both those playlists without breaking the game lol. Get rid of Normals if anything, why have Normals if Dynamic is basically Normals now anyways. They said the population to Ranked increased heavily with Dynamic Queue, does that mean Normals dropped way down?

Billy VoHagenJun 7, 20162 votes

Or they're just saying it. You guys have to understand, Blizzard doesn't care about Riot. Riot isn't competition to them. They are worth so much more, and while they don't have one game that is as successful as League, they have many games that when put together, are more successful than league.

Nausicäa Jun 7, 20162 votes

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Or they're just saying it. You guys have to understand, Blizzard doesn't care about Riot. Riot isn't competition to them. They are worth so much more, and while they don't have one game that is as successful as League, they have many games that when put together, are more successful than league.

?? SC2 is dead WoW has been dying for years Diablo is reasonable popular but doesnt have a huge amount of players Heroes of the Storm failed to gain a significant portion of the MOBA audience

The only game that has a significant amount of players now is Overwatch. You have no idea what you're talking about, they both have games that appeal to similar audiences obviously they are competing for peoples time and money.