I TPed bot, Lee sin killed herald and came to my lane (After I tped bot. playing maokai top). By the time I can get back to lane he has gotten two towers in about 1 minute. I'm really not a fan of this mechanic.
Hyrum Graff14 votesThis is the goal of the Herald. That you should care a little more about staying in top lane, as opposed to having a competition over who's better at gangbanging bot.
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This is the goal of the Herald. That you should care a little more about staying in top lane, as opposed to having a competition over who's better at gangbanging bot.
We already had that due to split pushers and the lane being long accumulating big creep waves that you have to react to by default anyway.
Is Top even allowed to participate in the rest of the map anymore?
GelsominoKiller4 votesThe idea is that, with herald, the rest of the map will come top.
Top was historically isolated and forced into tp because of the dragon presence.
That is, coincidentally, the reason the duo lane ended up stabilizing in that position, and I wouldn't be surprised if pro players started to invert toplane and botlane, in case herald revealed itself to be more profitable than dragon.
Hyrum Graff2 votesThe idea is that, with herald, the rest of the map will come top.
Top was historically isolated and forced into tp because of the dragon presence.
That is, coincidentally, the reason the duo lane ended up stabilizing in that position, and I wouldn't be surprised if pro players started to invert toplane and botlane, in case herald revealed itself to be more profitable than dragon.
Or duo mid
AMYS GRAVE2 votesBot turret still lacks the early resistances and first turret gold is still a thing. Sending your duo lane top or mid would be giving that away for free.
Hyrum Graff2 votesBot turret still lacks the early resistances and first turret gold is still a thing. Sending your duo lane top or mid would be giving that away for free.
Fortification only lasts for 5 min; Gerald spawns at 10.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesRight, but the duo lane will still have to start bot. They might delayed swap, but not before Gerald spawns.
Hyrum Graff1 votesRight, but the duo lane will still have to start bot. They might delayed swap, but not before Gerald spawns.
Yeah. And that's right around when most mages are completing their Morello and have enough waveclear to hold a 1v2; I wouldn't be surprised to see 10 min mid/bot swaps before towers go down.
It'll be interesting to see how it's affected by proximity to Blue buff, though.
NineTailedMystic2 votesPlease, stay out of my mid, thanks.
o Eon O9 votesThats 100 percent on you. 1. you probably tp'd down there not knowing where Lee was so the threat of him doing that was there. 2. You must have heard/saw that he took rift because it's obvious when it's taken, but decided not to go back top immediately. Thats on you and this is the kind of shit Riot wants happening. They want their to be a major threat top side that if you decide to ass rape bot lane they can counter with. Rift is doing it's job finally
DoktorKaiser8 votesThe design is terrible. You can solo it with a Soraka support easily, but you need your entire team to kill it once its summoned. First turret will fall 100% and there is not a single thing you can do about it, then they push with the herald to the 2. turret and wait. If you focus the herald they immediately engage on you and destroy you, if you dont he just pushes easily. Today my team did that while we had an early game lead, we took down 4 towers including 1 nexus tower in 1 push. Its stupid, it makes the game even more snowbally and short, it caters to casuals who want to play for 8 minutes and then go do something else and I hate it. Everything is flooded with damage and mobility, tanking sucks, but then again why tank when you can solo everyone with 0 damage, turrets are shit, why not make herald destroy them all even more, reworks like Galio, Sejuani, Maokai, Zac, LB, Fizz, Malzahar, Kog etc are trash and they refuse to revert them. So many dumb decisions sigh...
o Eon O4 votesCouldn't be more wrong saying it's gone 100 percent. Any form off CC can stop it, so stuns, knock backs, ect... can stop it. That right their totally nullifies your claim that 100 percent the turret is gone. Secondly in no way can they engage on you if you focus the rift herald, they would still get targeted by the turret. I play all day everyday, the thing is not taking over games. The only ones who have trouble with rift herald are people who are incredibly clueless and slow to adapt to changes
Milla Jovovich3 votesTargeted by the turret ? Pls no,I'll do anything!
Dr Poro2 votesWhat if you play a toplaner without hard cc
? or if it's only in your ult 
?
(I know you're arguing against "100% of the time, but I'm really curious about what I should do in these situations)
o Eon O3 votesThen you keep the enemy off your turret. The rift is going to get that chunk of damage on your turret no matter what, his follow up aa's are pretty weak so the main thing is to keep the enemy off your turret while you AA the rift herald. You'll lose that chunk but the turret should still be saved and the rift is off the playing field now. This guy only lost so much because he tp'd bot and then stayed bot too long
GelsominoKiller7 votesI actually like it! It can be easily stopped by a coordinated team effort, but yeah, if you leave it alone in a lane for a good amount of time he's going to take two towers.
Darth West9 votesI actually hate it. Takes 3-4 people to stop it at times if the enemy laner knows how to abuse the herald at all. By that time the enemy team with NO Herald will steal your other towers while you stop the herald.
Lose-Lose.
I know this. Lost a damn game in 19 minutes over this crap..
GelsominoKiller7 votesWhat can I say... It's an objective.
Giving advantage is what it is supposed to do, like all objectives. Towers, buffs, epic monsters, inhibitors... All contribute to snowballing.
Some, like infernal Drake, go often unnoticed, so that you can't track the lost fight and tower directly to it, but their contribution may be even higher than herald.
With infernal, you haven't any agency, it's there, and the enemy team will be empowered until the game ends.
The reason why I like herald is because it is an objective advantage that can be countered and managed. Yes, of course it will do some damage, of course it's a lose-lose situation for you, but the extent of the lead the enemy team may get depends strongly on their and YOURS decision-making.
He may be overtuned right now maybe, but i support the concept behind it. I'd rather have herald than Drakes, to be honest, for I think it is an healthier form of advantage that forces decision making from both teams.
KoKoboto6 votesI think it's okay, it just needs to be harder to do.
Marshbouy18 votesI somewhat agree with this. it should be a huge risk to take for a huge reward, but right now it can be soloed with no real issue.
Darth West18 votesI solo'd the herald right when it came up, with ease..
Why the hell is he easier to kill then he used to be anyways, when it's so much more game changing.
junglerboy163 votesThey didn't account for the fact that the windup/cooldown on some of it's attacks leaves room for a single champ to move behind it, poke the eye, and continue fighting. Before it would constantly turn and attack whoever was closest to it, no matter what, but now after the charge or cleave smash it stalls for a second or so where you can easily reposition without it turning.
That's the only difference I can see between now and before, because the stats were unchanged unless I'm mistaken...
Walmart Porn3 votesnot only that but it does damage to fast, and counts as a minion so towers dont take reduced damage. This is just fundementally wrong. Why bother having 2 outer towers top at all at this point. Just remove rift and remove the 2 towers on either side and let them fight
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesI'm not sure why, exactly, you decided to TP bot without vision of an objective (and, probably without vision of your laner) and, after the game said that Lee had killed Herald, it took you a minute to get back to top. It's a 30 second trip at the most, counting the recall time. I'm also not sure why you didn't ask for your jungler to come top to save it, or…anything. Sure, the first turret was probably a loss as soon as he summoned it, but the second turret? On you. Not your allies, not on a mechanic. It's on you for letting him take an easy two turrets.
ManiacalCoyote4 votesEh, it's fun to release all of the critters from the zoo, with 
Hexs Fortune2 votesRift herald should require at least 2
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesI like rift herald when my team gets it.
They never have. Fortunately we were always there to kill it to prevent too much damage.
SweedishGunner2 votesHerald being more effective than Baron is an issue.
Given the time it's taken and used you can take more towers with Herald than with Baron.
rtbf2256182412 votesTbh i don't have a problem with it at all. I took it down in about 5 seconds after it charged the turret since the eye in the back is still vulnerable. Sure it does damage but it's part of the reward for taking it.
I just think it should be harder to defeat.
Iźuku Midoriya2 votesI just hate how if you die once in lane with tp down, you lose tower, thats what it feels like
ApexInTheCircle1 votesKilling it should net your team like 300-400 gold for everyone.
Power Cosmic1 votesYeah. If your team is weak or behind elsewhere, you can now get screwed over harder; especially top.
Khadaver1 votesMy issue with it is you either stop it in 5 seconds and it's useless or there is no one there and a whole lane is gone
Mech0p1 votesYour first issue was playing the new maokai top
Tobias Brackner1 votesBe careful when you TP. You can't just show up botlane for free.