Jungler's guide on when to Power Farm and when not to Power Farm.

Zerenza··6 votes·5,033 views

I'v started to see this a lot and 5 months ago it's the reason i went from Mid to Jungle.

Jungler's that SHOULD NOT be power farming, say Elise, Lee Sin, Olaf ect end up power farming while every lane is being pushed in, camped or beaten to death by either their own laner, enemy laner's or the enemy jungler.

Here's the thing, CERTAIN JUNGLER"S power farm, not all of them.

Power Farming Jungler's(2 Types): MasterYi Evelynn Nocturne

In Master Yi's case he enjoys having large amounts of gold because he needs it, he's a hyper carry jungler. Hyper Carry jungler's like Master Yi will power farm for most of the game, only gank when they need to or see a good opportunity.

Other power farm jungler's like Evelynn(my main) farm heavily until 6 and then proceed to be a mid game powerhouse, dominating games and running them out of control with extreme kill pressure all over the map, the same can be said for Nocturn.

Non-Power Farm Jungler's: JarvanIV Elise LeeSin

These champion, and most jungler's nowaday's actually, do not like to power farm. They have a huge power spike at level's 2 or 3 and often gank from then onward, taking camps when they don't have anything else do to.

But wait! Here's the problem, a lot of jungler's i'v seen don't know when they have something to do and when they don't. If you have nothing to do, yes power farm, but when all 3 of your lanes are being pressured DO SOMETHING! Place ward's, look for counter ganks, keep track of sums, flank, catch people out, DO SOMETHING other than letting your lanes lose to the enemy jungler. If you do nothing because your a "Farm Jungler" (a common term used by jungler that are new to jungling.) your only telling the enemy jungler "Hey, i'm not helping my team so go ahead and destroy them."

TLDR: I'm a jungler myself now, so i understand that sometimes you can't do much, sometimes lanes aren't gankable and sometimes your team just feeds(it happens, i do it too.). But, as a jungler it's your job to apply pressure or relieve it in whatever way you can, and if your playing a jungler with a powerful Level 6, but not using it, your wasting your potential as a jungler and making your team suffer for it, this also applies to champions that have strong level 3's, if your not doing anything but farming and your team is constantly getting ganked, do something about it.

11 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

I'd like to note that sometimes you need to break pattern. Evelynn should generally attempt a gank or two, especially if she has someone that can set it up. And anyone will need to gank if things are about to fall apart.

And if you fall too far behind on anyone, you need to just powerfarm, because you're not going to help if you gank at all.

And you should also note that holding a turret is still a way to get farm. Just because I ask you to hold my turret doesn't mean you're losing gold or EXP.

Zerenza1 votes

Yes, what i said was just General games, as in 90% of my games i just power farm till 6 with Eve and go from there, occasionally if someone is especially low and not backing i'll go finish them off then hold turret or something but generally she's a farm till 6 jungler.

I don't think you NEED to powerfarm, Jungler's get far less gold from farming their camps constantly than laner's get from farming their lane, so if your behind on someone like Eve(cause it's happened to me frequently) it's best to full clear then start warding and wait for opportunities to gank someone and catch back up/hold someones turret for them. Basically you need to be Opportunistic when behind, not passive, if a chance arrises take it, if you ignore all your chances you'll only stay behind while the enemy jungler/team takes advantage of you not taking any action.

Edit: Should be noted that my last game my Jungler(i was mid cause i'm a mid/jungler) did end up slightly behind, but the thing is that he had plenty of opportunities and i even gave him a kill on my laner yet he did nothing but power farm. He missed every opportunity out of fear, he let the enemy jungler do whatever she wanted to and it's all because he chose not to do anything instead of take opportunities when they present themselves.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

For Eve in particular, I like to run from Raptors up blue side (Solo start Raptors>wolves>Blue>gromp>crab), and get a level 3 gank in, then sweep down, get my raptors again, red, crab, krugs, B, then generally I gank botlane, and, after that, I farm until 6 (which should only be another few camps, especially if I got a kill in both ganks. Might not even need to take camps to hit 6 after the gank, if I help push). Her level 3 gank is actually surprisingly strong, you just have to make sure you come in from behind them (and that they're somewhat pushed) before you W.

And it's not just a gold thing, it's a level thing. If you're 2 or 3 levels down and don't have hard CC, you're not going to be very useful in a gank. It's best to just get your laners to waste their jungler's time, so that you can get back ahead.

Zerenza1 votes

I usually get help from my Bot lane, either side of the map, but if i start Red buff i go to raptor's, skip krugs, full clear my top side jungle, go back down for krugs then gank bot lane(if it's possible), if it's not possible then i B(i'm level 4 almost 5 now, about 5 mins in to the game) by now Raptor's are back up so i get Raptor's, look for gank opportunities, ward river bushes for my laner's and get 6 at around 7 mins. My buy is Aether Whip, Hunter's Talisman, Boots and a Refilable, after i hit level 6 i instantly run to the first lane i see that's pushed in 90% of the time get a kill, i actually think her level 6 is extremely Cheese because if someones squishy and they're pushed up they're basically dead.

I agree with the second statement, though generally in my experience if your that far behind your laner's are already losing anyway and will continue to lose, i think it's up to preference, some jungler's/player's like to be more risky when their behind while other's like to play it safe, as a jungler i'm more risky as a laner i'm more passive.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

That's not a bad build at all I personally prefer to start item 1039 and item 2031, get item 3706, item 1001, then item 3152, grab my item 3020, then get item 1402 and item 3100. Works rather well.

Zerenza1 votes

I go Red Smite, also i don't build Protobelt and i get Mobile Boot's for more catch potential, it's sooooooooo good. I like the Blue Smite build but Red Smite let's me survive 1v1's against other strong jungler's more frequently so my build is usually this.

item 1039 +item 2031 Start

First Back: item 3113 item 1001 oritem 3117 (got an early kill maybe?)

Then i go: item 1414 +item 3100 lichbane is always second, third item is based on situation but it's one of these three that i pick from.

item 3742 item 3151(magic pen is OP right now) item 3152 (sometimes i get Cheeky with a Gunblade)

also i build my Refilable into Hunter's Potion or Corupting Potion a lot.

Oh yeah also this is my rune page. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-update/8100-8112?build=10222256

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Mobis are nice, but I personally prefer my build (later items are based on need. Generally item 3151 and either item 3742 or item 3102)

I also run http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-update/8100-8112?build=10222016 for my runes. The MS boost from the 4th rune is more than enough to make up for not having Mobis (and the Sorc ones are better, anyways).

I tend to not upgrade refillable, because I just don't need it upgraded. Your passive (and especially with smite now) is enough for health, and proper backs and blue buff pickups prevents you from running out of mana.

Q>W>E start and max is what I run as well. The only problem with it is you need a leash if the enemy team damages you at all. Like, if they even walk up and hit you once, you'll almost certainly need a leash.

SaltLord4511 votes

I've been enjoying Shyvana lately and Im pretty sure she's a power farming jungler. I feel helpless pre 6 because her ganks suck without her ult. When is it worth ganking pre 6?

Zerenza1 votes

When the opportunity arises, basically if an enemy laner is super low, you find an enemy jungler super low and your sure you can kill them either by yourself after an ally dies or with the help of an ally, that's when. In addition, like the previous poster said, if an ally laner get's pushed out, hold the minion wave that get's pushed under tower, you get the gold+lane EXP and it help's reach 6 faster which will give you your power spike faster so you can start shreking on people.

A good example is when i was level 5, my ally laner died to a level 5 teemo, teemo is super low(200 HP) but he's not backing, and i have more health than him, i kill him or force out a flash, same thing happens if i find the enemy jungler in the same state.

SaltLord4511 votes

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When the opportunity arises, basically if an enemy laner is super low, you find an enemy jungler super low and your sure you can kill them either by yourself after an ally dies or with the help of an ally, that's when. In addition, like the previous poster said, if an ally laner get's pushed out, hold the minion wave that get's pushed under tower, you get the gold+lane EXP and it help's reach 6 faster which will give you your power spike faster so you can start shreking on people.

A good example is when i was level 5, my ally laner died to a level 5 teemo, teemo is super low(200 HP) but he's not backing, and i have more health than him, i kill him or force out a flash, same thing happens if i find the enemy jungler in the same state.

thanks, I've been branching out into other roles and jungle is my least favorite!

iPooUnicorns1 votes

Look for counter ganks or just steal the other jg's raptors, most jgs ignore them early because of how tough they are.

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